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Would like new rims...any ideas?

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Hello my little Birds...I have a 2000 Titanium Bird, just broke 120k, and no real problems. My rims are starting to look, well, bad. I would like something in gold, or at least something that looks good for the color and stays clean. I hear getting rims too light, may cause steering feel issues, but I am completely ignorant on rims. Any ideas out there? I am in California by the by.
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Why not just get your rims powder-coated? Cheaper than new rims, no concerns with fitment or feel, and you can choose any color you like.
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I run Galespeed Type R's. They are a lighter wheel and I haven't seen or felt any issues.
Why not just get your rims powder-coated? Cheaper than new rims, no concerns with fitment or feel, and you can choose any color you like.
I just might look into that. I found a company 10 miles away that does powder coating. Thanks!
I run Galespeed Type R's. They are a lighter wheel and I have seen or felt any issues.
Beautiful wheels, just went to their website...a bit too spendy for me...appears to be 2500 US for each and being shipped from the UK. I would have to stop eating for a few months to afford them. What color did you get for yours? Is your Bird Titanium as well?
Before the accident
Before the accident
I really like those rims
Yes they are great I actually felt an improvement in response. They were about 2 and 5 pounds lighter than stock.
I purchased mine from webike Japan because of the price you saw. Going through them does have a delay because they don't stock them. They submit upon your order. But at 1800.00 total it was worth the wait.
Powder coating is your answer.
Before you give you wheels over check that they know what to mask, disc fitting areas etc, you don't want powder in those areas.
Check that they will use UV resistant powder usually a polyester powder (this should be second nature to an experienced coater).

Use white spirit to clean powder coated wheels, gets rid of chain lube and road mess easily and will not discolour the finish.

FWIW when I get back from my trip to Spain & Portugal I will be stripping and re-powder coating one of my sets of wheels, they have lasted with years of abuse but could do with a freshen up.
The big question I am still to answer is what colour do I choose ......
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Question on getting powder coating on old rims.
How do you know your rims still have a lot of life into it? It would suck to get your rims powder coated and they fail within the next year or so. Is it just a hit and miss? Any thoughts on life expectancy of a rim?

Thanks!
Forever. My rims are oem and going strong.
I run Galespeed Type R's. They are a lighter wheel and I haven't seen or felt any issues.
I agree with the powder coating did it myself came out awesome 🏍
Question on getting powder coating on old rims.
How do you know your rims still have a lot of life into it?
If they have been hit in the past then there will be damage but if they have just been run then there will be no issues.
In fact when the rims are blasted any hidden damage (highly unlikely) will be exposed which would save you from a nasty upcoming incident.

BTW when the rims are powdered the bearing will have to be replaced (rim and sprocket holder)
I hear getting rims too light, may cause steering feel issues, but I am completely ignorant on rims.
Nope. Just nope. Given that humans can ride anything from 6 kg bicycles to 400 kg Harleys, how exactly could changing a 250 kg Blackbird to a 245 kg Blackbird give issues. I'm a professional engineer doing steering and suspension system design. You can feel a difference for sure, but the idea that it's an "issue" is just internet pearl-clutching nonsense.

I am in California by the by.
I can recommend A&E Elite in San Jose (depending where in California you are). I had two different sets of rims done there. Beautiful job, if you're prepared to deal with a "low overhead" operation. Which means going there with the rims stripped (bearings, tyre, etc) and basically not being a dick to the lady on reception.
Lighter rims could cause a different feel (y).... usually better, not worse......less unsprung weight.

Every bike made since the venerable old tank of a 260kg BB has been on a diet, trimming weight here and there, and they don't feel bad or destroy rims while clicking up high miles at high speeds.

While stripping the rims for powder coating, consider getting a few Kilo's machined out of them.
They are over-engineered 1990's tech built like a battleships anchor.

Drag racer guys I knew years ago used to take heaps of metal out of heavy old rims, to bring them up to lighter spec current OEM alloy wheels.

I had the opportunity to feel a set of carbon fibre rims recently and :censored:k me, I nearly threw them through the ceiling....... I didn't ask how much, but think about it.....why would anyone make them if super light wheels caused bad feel issues? I wouldn't use CF wheels on public roads due to too many potholes/obstacles etc. But track guys love them.

Lighter wheels offer an improvement in handling and feel. A wheel rim has no service life limit - they may have damage from a crash or abuse like jumping kerbs or bashing potholes, or they can be bent by ham fisted tyre changers, but they otherwise last forever in normal riding with consumables like bearings and tyre valve's replaced when needed.

Maybe someone was trying to explain that super light wheels like those CF ones I lifted might trigger lighter suspension tuning/components to suit, but I doubt the BB would need any changes for just a few Kilo's of weight loss from each rim.

Might give the old girl the lift she deserves!

(y)
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Lighter rims could cause a different feel (y).... usually better, not worse......less unsprung weight.

Every bike made since the venerable old tank of a 260kg BB has been on a diet, trimming weight here and there, and they don't feel bad or destroy rims while clicking up high miles at high speeds.

While stripping the rims for powder coating, consider getting a few Kilo's machined out of them.
They are over-engineered 1990's tech built like a battleships anchor.

Drag racer guys I knew years ago used to take heaps of metal out of heavy old rims, to bring them up to lighter spec current OEM alloy wheels.

I had the opportunity to feel a set of carbon fibre rims recently and :censored:k me, I nearly threw them through the ceiling....... I didn't ask how much, but think about it.....why would anyone make them if super light wheels caused bad feel issues? I wouldn't use CF wheels on public roads due to too many potholes/obstacles etc. But track guys love them.

Lighter wheels offer an improvement in handling and feel. A wheel rim has no service life limit - they may have damage from a crash or abuse like jumping kerbs or bashing potholes, or they can be bent by ham fisted tyre changers, but they otherwise last forever in normal riding with consumables like bearings and tyre valve's replaced when needed.

Maybe someone was trying to explain that super light wheels like those CF ones I lifted might trigger lighter suspension tuning/components to suit, but I doubt the BB would need any changes for just a few Kilo's of weight loss from each rim.

Might give the old girl the lift she deserves!

(y)
I found a used set of C.F. Dymags " From An Estate Sale " , on flea bay this a.m. Listed as : " Vintage Dymag Front Motorcycle Wheel With Pirelli Tire ." One looks a bit more than used , but the rear didn't show any scars.
I bought a set from a member here a few years back. I'm either going to mount them on my '99 Blackbird or sell 'em on the site here.
I found a used set of C.F. Dymags " From An Estate Sale " , on flea bay this a.m. Listed as : " Vintage Dymag Front Motorcycle Wheel With Pirelli Tire ." One looks a bit more than used , but the rear didn't show any scars.
I bought a set from a member here a few years back. I'm either going to mount them on my '99 Blackbird or sell 'em on the site here.
One thing to be mindful with Dymag rear wheels. The rear carrier is specific to that rim. Rollie, Bear found that out. Someone at a point in time when he was putting the bike together. Pushed it over and stole the rear tire. I remember Bear laughing about because whoever stole the wheel left the carrier. He said the rest of the wheel was useless to whoever stole it because the carrier and wheel are matched set.
I run Galespeed Type R's. They are a lighter wheel and I haven't seen or felt any issues.

Did you notice any improvements over stock rims, as yours appear to be lighter ?!?
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