Any possibility of this GB still happening?
I am seriously considering this upgrade, and wouldn't mind saving a few $$
I will try to post some pics later this eve after return from Thanksgiving gobble gobble, will look at the box to see where they were actually shipped from. I had to wait for them to be shipped all the proper fittings from the UK and like I said Luis service was excellent he called me after I inquired on buying to inform me that as soon as he had all the brass fittings and banjos in my kit would be built and shipped. In fact the day he called me about 1 mth ago they big cheeze from UK Hel was at their grand opening , he said I was the first kit shipped in the US under the new ownershipPictures ASAP please! Where in Florida were they shipped from?
Ran into a few little snags tonight, nothing major, but enough to prevent me from wrapping up the job completely tonight as originally planned.
Here's a brief outline of the install job thus far:
As mentioned above the "10-line" kit actually has 8 physically separate lines; two of them are in two "sections".
Here are OEM lines 1-3 that attach to the left caliper and Secondary Master Cylinder:
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Here are lines 4-6, which are on the right caliper and delay valve:
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Here are lines 7-8, which attach to the rear caliper and rear master cylinder (line 7) and Proportional Valve (Line 8):
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The HEL kit for the Blackbird has two little "gotcha's", both easily overcome.
Gotch'a #1: The steering neck has a raised flange area where the t-block fitting will buttress up against once installed. However, the HEL t-block is slightly wider than the OEM t-block, so you need to dremel off about 1/16" of the flange material to allow the HEL t-block fastener holes to line up so you can thread in the fastener. This problem exists for both the left and right steering neck t-blocks.
Here is a shot of the left steering neck after I shaved off a little of the flange:
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And here is the t-block after installation. Note I used a new stainless steel button-head fastener (couldn't bring myself to use the old ass-cheese factory pig-iron hex-head bolt.):
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Gotch'a #2: For some reason, the fastener holes in the the t- blocks (which, as Toynut correctly observed, are made from a single block of billet stainless 303, and are very sweet indeed) have M6 threads tapped into them. This is not what you want to have; none of the equivalent factory t-blocks are threaded. Indeed, you can NOT pass through the stock fasteners because they are "shouldered", and the shouldered part of the fastener shaft will not pass through the t-block. Your options are a) obtain an equivalent fastener that is threaded throughout its shaft length, or b) drill out the hole to allow the passthrough of the stock fastener.
Here is the left caliper with all lines installed finger tight. At this point, I had to go find a new fastener to retain the two stainless steel HEL t-blocks you see at the top of this photo (that connect to two cross-over metal (hard) lines:
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Finally, here is the left caliper with all lines in place, and t-blocks fastened down, and metal hard lines attached:
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And the same for the right caliper:
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Tomorrow night (7 Mar 07), I'll install the last two lines on the rear caliper, and start the always-fun hydraulic fluid re-fill and bleeding exercise....![]()
I am hoping the few issues were corrected on this kit, I would expect it is the revised version but will see upon cracking the seal, I am alos going to email Luis back as I have not opened it to inquire with him as I forgot to when i purchased it. will get some pics up once I have a reply from H-E-L USACisco,
Just wondering if you can tell if the "Gotcha's" mentioned below were modified by HEL on your new Kit? Warchild mentions that he was in contact with the old HEL vendor and a factory mod was in the works. Did it ever happen?
Tony
Wow looks great and looks as though I got a killa price for plaing faith in earlier posts by Luis as the new owner, their current pricing is still great and I guess I was the first order and did benefit big time, will edit my post above so they do not continue getting inquiries on the price I paid which was a one time deal being their first order which was very cool !Ladies and Germs,
Here's a copy and paste of some mail between H-E-L USA (Deb) and myself that has taken place this week.
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Price on Super Blackbird complete line kit?
Hello H.E.L USA,
Looking for price and delivery timing on a complete set of brake lines and clutch line for a 1998 Honda CBR-1100xx Super Blackbird. Color choice for fittings is gold, line color choice is smoked (a.k.a carbon look). The clutch line and the front brake primary line at the master-cylinder connections I wish to be 1 inch longer then stock please. There was also some mention of a possible hardware change to fix some fitment issues from a year ago. The details of that discussion can be seen here:
http://www.cbrxx.com/suspension-tir...ins-hel-stainless-steel-brake-line-kit-3.html
The issues are mentioned by "Warchild" during his install of the lines.
Can you relate if these issues were addressed by HEL in the U.K. with newer kits?
Thanks for any and all info.
Tony Bagley
From: H-E-L USA
To: Tony Bagley
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: Price on Super Blackbird complete line kit?
Hello Tony,
Sorry I didn't get back to you yesterday. I went to your CBRXX club site to see all that Warchild had said and sent it off to the UK. Where these fittings are made, along with the pictures. Per UK." No longer a problem as he also says that his had a 6mm tapped hole where as now they are all untapped.
So there should be no further issues form now on with the kits." 10-line kits take longer, about 2 weeks from payment to door. Adding more inches is fine, and doesn't cost any different. 10-line kits are $490. + tax in Fl. The Cisco Kid got his a lot cheaper due to our 1st. Order. We will give the CBRXX.Club (which I'm now a member) a 10% discount ($441.00) for 1-5 kits if you guys get together and order more then more of a discount.hope this helps and let me know. Thanks Deb
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So there you have it. I'll be doing the lines regardless as I believe they are well worth the investment. I believe the lines cost $49.00 (10 x $49.00= $490.00) which is what I remember as the standard rate, so the clutch line would be another $49.00 to included.
FWIW,
Tony
Tony , what do you think of the kit? I have a bunch of parts to install as well and will soon start the HEL install in my garage over the winterWell as of this morning my order has been placed. E-mail backed up with phone chat with Deb made for a painless experiance I'm pleased to say. I guess I'll see the kit in a couple of weeks or so. The install will not happen until spring due to weather and time constraints. I'm currently stock piling parts for the spring maint thrash I normally do prior to our June ride. So far it looks like: Chain sprockets, HEL line install, oil/filter,wheel bearings and seals, most likely a HID install at some point (still have to decide on a set up and make the purchase) maybe a rear hugger to keep the crap off the Ohlins out back, maybe a fender extender for the front. Factory Pro jet kit and Tiforce 4-2-1 system install, steering stem bearing change out, Tank Slapper protection for the tank.
Tony
JAWS do a delink kit.comes with lines and bracket for caliper.Any chance of a D-Link kit?
same here about the air
I did, but the rear is still soft......You need to follow the workshop book exactly to get it right. even the mechs have problems unless Honda trained