[beestoys]

I'd be very curious to see what you think about the way they tip in compared to the Diablos. When I changed over from PR4's the tip in difference was day and night. The G30's 31's and 32's from Bridgestone have all been phenomenal. The mileage has been 10 to 15,000 on the rear and 20 to 30,000on the front.

 

[Szczebrzeszyn]

Morals of the story: Never buy used tire for your bike.

Happy ending:



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I would never ever ever buy used tyres for any vehicles I own. Tyres keep you in contact with terra firma. No disrespect, but this is your own fault entirely. Hopefully moving forward you have had forced consciousness expansion and you wont do this again lol

 

[Aussie Dave]

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Bought 2nd hand with good tread.
Installed by my local bike shop, all looked good.
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Lucky escape......my guess is the bead has separated after being inflated well above 50psi to pop the beads onto the rims.

I hope the bike shop reported the tyre failure up the line to Pirelli in case it was a batch problem, but I suspect it might have been their error at installation.

I have run Michelin's for decades, all the PR series, and the R5, but haven't had the opportunity to go R6 yet (out of stock when I wanted to change).

I run 35psi Front & 37psi Rear as advised by Michelin tyre rep for solo (36f 40r dual) and never get less than 20,000kms a set or have any slips in heavy wet & cold conditions. I don't recommend 42/42psi, but some do.....maybe it suits their climate.

Know what pressures the MGp riders use for their 340kph 45minute flat out race battles?...... 24psiF & 26psiR......I kid you 'knot'

Disclaimer.......you choose the right psi for your part of the world and riding style - if in doubt, ask a dedicated independent tyre shop, not a Honda agent who must follow company advice covering the whole planet for legal/contractual reasons .

I'm also a 45+ year rider with 18 bikes through my hands and many more test rides .

 

[kavallero]

I'd be very curious to see what you think about the way they tip in compared to the Diablos. When I changed over from PR4's the tip in difference was day and night. The G30's 31's and 32's from Bridgestone have all been phenomenal. The mileage has been 10 to 15,000 on the rear and 20 to 30,000on the front.

I find that Road 6 tips better than Pirellis or Contis .. the overall feeling is that the bike feels lighter & more flick-able, almost like a 750cc bike.

Maybe because of the compound or shape of the tire, who knows.

 

[Aussie Dave]

Maybe it's just that new tyres feel alive compared to the old tyres that have gone hard / worn down their profiles over a year or more of riding.

Though it is true that the Michelin's are nicer to turn in if you ride a bike with say a new Dunlop's, then ride one with new Mitch's, they feel different yet have the same size & profile numbers on the sidewall .

Tyres can also take a while to settle down too, so maybe 1st impressions are misleading. I prefer Michelin's although the Pirelli's I have on the Multistrada have proven themselves competent with similar long life and great grip to Michelin's.

If the shop can get R6's next time I'm due.......

 

[kavallero]

......my guess is the bead has separated after being inflated well above 50psi to pop the beads onto the rims ...

This may be the case, having in mind that the mechanic who swapped the tires (I only took the rim to the workshop, not the bike), said that he left the tire at 30psi and that I should adjust the pressure to my liking ?!??

As if he doesn't know what psi reading should be in this king of tire, but certainly not 30psi. The tire was ok at that point, no deformity at all .. then I inflated it to about 40psi before I went riding.

There is a possibility that he screwed the tire by excessive air pressure and droped it down to 30ps, so the bulge wouldn't show.

Hmm ..!

 

[Aussie Dave]

Ummmm, maybe he was onto something .. Diablo Rosso 2's......are they one of the racy track day tyres in the Pirelli range?

If so, then 30psi was probably a good setting for them. 40psi would be too high to let the compound 'work' even on our porky Birds.

My V4 Multistrada lounge chair is not much lighter than a Birdie, if at all.. yet Ducati specify 34F & 36R, which I would run even if they didn't (KTM spec'd 36f & 42r which was BS on a 170hp 240kg weapon of a bike - I quickly realised KTM had no idea and set mine to 34f 36r.....tried to save others from their inevitable tyre slip crashes.......some listened, some didn't, but they all had an off that they couldn't explain using manufacturers hard tyre pressures.......).

There are several Utube tutorials covering finding the right psi for our individual circumstances. But higher psi does not equate to longer life with current tyre compounds. I still get phenomenal mileages, but with good grip when the weather goes bad .

 

[deadman]

Previous owner has hit a pot hole and possibly dented his wheel at the same time,
New wheel and tyre, Offload the damaged tyre,

 

[kavallero]

Ummmm, maybe he was onto something .. Diablo Rosso 2's......are they one of the racy track day tyres in the Pirelli range?
If so, then 30psi was probably a good setting for them. 40psi would be too high to let the compound 'work' even on our porky Birds.

I believe these are just ordinary street tires sold in bike shops.

Not racing or anything like that .. as I had them previously on my FireBlade.

Good street tires (unless faulty for whatever reason).

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[XXGUY]

I agree, no tire gives so much confidence as Michelin do.
Riding those feels like being at home. And I had over 20 bikes, more than 45yrs of active riding, yes.

As for Diablos, I can not explain what happened with the tire.
Bought 2nd hand with good tread.
Installed by my local bike shop, all looked good.
After 10min of riding (and putting some temperature in the tire) I experienced a bit of bumpiness on the left corners.
Came home and saw the lump.
The rest is history.

Hopefully the shop that sold them was decent enough and gave you a refund of some type!

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[XXGUY]

I'd be very curious to see what you think about the way they tip in compared to the Diablos. When I changed over from PR4's the tip in difference was day and night. The G30's 31's and 32's from Bridgestone have all been phenomenal. The mileage has been 10 to 15,000 on the rear and 20 to 30,000on the front.

I agree and I'm glad you got me to look at them. My PR4's didn't tip in as well either but I never get your mileage out of them. For the money I like the Bridgestone. Although I do have a Dunlop Q3 or 4 on the back. I love it... except the sides are wearing out faster than the middle for some reason. It wouldn't last on a trip but the corners going to work! Yeah...

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