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    To Blinky...or not to Blinky

    Howdy Ya'all. Just thought I would drop in and give you an ear full of _hit for sitting at your computer instead of being out riding your bird.

    anyway, I would just like to announce that I was involved in another accident and my 97 Carbie Black Bird, so affectionately named The Charcoal Chicken, was damaged and probably totaled. Per Lawyer instructions I can't discuss the details of the case.

    What I am posting today is a little self help for Blackbird owners. If you have swapped out your incandescent lights for LED's then Listen up.

    Most of us have tried to replace the factory supplied Flasher relay to accommodate the new LED's. Well the 2 pin replacement relay that I obtained at my local parts house has not worked out very well so I decided to replace it with a three pin unit. I found this unit at Amazon dot com and on the Ebay as well. it costs between 3 and 6 dollars plus shipping. It has no wiring diagram supplied with it which complicates things just a bit. The Honda original is a 23 watt unit. This unit can handle up to 140 Watt and is sold as a replacement for Honda Scooters but works beautifully, no load resistors needed and no cutting and re working of the chassis harness.

    To make this 3 pin unit work you will have to identify one wire(the Nil wire) and determine the position of the other two wires(the Blinker wires) in the connector receptacle on the chassis harness. Then reinstall the wires into the connector supplied as part of the new relay assembly.

    Step 1. Unpin the 3 wires from the connector that is supplied with the new relay.

    Step 2. Set your volt meter to 20K Ohms. Connect it between two of the three wires. when you get a reading of resistance then you have identified the two blinker wires. If you test the two blinker wires in the opposite polarity then you will see a resistance but at a different indicated value. The third wire(The Nil Wire) should show an infinite resistance(open) when tested using either of the blinker wires.

    Step 3. Go to the connector half on the chassis harness and with the key in the on position now you have to identify the switched power wire. With your voltmeter set to read voltage identify the wire that has battery voltage, should be 11 or 12 volts. The other two pins will give a voltage reading but it will be less than 1/3 the battery voltage.

    Step 4. Identify the position of the Blinker wires. Connect one of the blinker wires with the switched power wire and the other into the center position of the chassis connector. Do not let the Nil wire ground while doing this test or your relay will go poof! With the key switched on test the Blinkers(indicators). if the Blinkers(indicators) work then you have found the correct position. If the position of the Blinker wires is not correct then the indicator lights will illuminate but not blink. If that happens then just reverse the positions of the Blinker wires.

    Step 5. Now you can install the Nil wire into the third position and the system should work correctly.

    Step 6. Re install the wire terminals into the supplied connector and you have a plug and play 3 pin LED Flasher.

    Pictures will be added as soon as I am done editing them.

    Cheers,....


    Felonius Cracker...
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    Re: To Blinky...or not to Blinky

    I just moved the two wires in the 2 pin replacement and it worked without issues.
    solid state flasher units don't need an earth.

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    Re: To Blinky...or not to Blinky

    It sounds complicated. I bought a relay that was for Hondas and supported a mix of filament and led bulbs. It was a straightforward plug in. I put LED indicators on the rears and they worked with the old bulbs in the front. A few weeks later I put LED front bulbs in and they worked.
    It's so long ago I doubt I could find the ebay item number!

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    Re: To Blinky...or not to Blinky

    I tried swapping the position of the wires on the two pin unit and it illuminated the lights and no flashing. Then tried a single resistor in the ground wire of the flasher. Same problem rapid flashing. then tried a resistor in each circuit, same problem rapid flashing. Tried two resistors in series in each circuit, same problem rapid flashing. Tried two resistors in parallel in each circuit, same problem rapid flashing. I have tried three different two pin units between my two bikes and no joy. I am suspecting that there is an internal problem with the batch of two pin units that I have been buying from. I can't identify any other reason for it? I agree a two pin unit should work without issue.

    F/C


 

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