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    New sprockets with new chain?

    With all my bikes I've always changed the sprockets with the chain.
    Due to a shortage of cash and the need for a new rear tyre and chain
    I am wondering if I can get away with reusing the old sprockets.
    I've checked them over and they seem perfectly OK.
    I certainly don't want anything stripping, snapping or wearing prematurely.
    Probably a big ask but no harm in asking.

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    I never did not change them together, but I've wondered why not on occassion. I one discussion I was involved in it seems opinion is you can do it every other change, so I've started doing that.
    N2YN 8/22/2004

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    My rule is front with every chain and a rear every other providing inspection shows nothing wrong. How to inspect? You really need another new sprocket to compare against. Stuff that isn't readily apparent just looking at the sprocket will become glaringly obvious in comparisong and it is that little stuff that will take 4K miles off the life of your new chain.

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    Because I used the original chain for about 60.000Kms, I've changed all parts!
    I'm runing my second chain set (original Honda) that is again around 60.000Kms!
    I can see that the sprockets are getting bad with long thooths.
    Soon I will change again! Maybe I'll try Regina or RK chains kit. Don't now yet!

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    60,000 kms Mine has 27,000kms and I'm thinking of changing it.
    Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get me!

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?



    Yes!
    My riding style is very calm and smooth!
    I manage to do 19.000kms with a set of Dunlop D207 tires.
    Also, the average consumptios in my XX is 6,5l/100km in mix City/Open Road.

    In HighWays I rarely ride beyound 140 or 160Km/h.

    Replacements are very expensive in Portugal!

    SuperXX

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    I've always heard it good to change the Front and Rear sprockets at the same time as the chain, otherwise the used parts will shorten the life of the new one(s) installed. Then I've heard what was mentioned earlier in this thread-some people change the Rear Sprocket every other time.

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    Yes, I noticed the tyre use in the other thread. Do you ride on glass or something?
    I couldn't get 7000 kms out of a set of Powers and they are similar. I ride calmly and smoothly too. No...honestly I do!
    Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get me!

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    Quote Originally Posted by shovelstrokeed View Post
    My rule is front with every chain and a rear every other providing inspection shows nothing wrong. How to inspect? You really need another new sprocket to compare against. Stuff that isn't readily apparent just looking at the sprocket will become glaringly obvious in comparisong and it is that little stuff that will take 4K miles off the life of your new chain.


    Good call, as I just went thru this last week.

    Thought well, time for a new chain.....but jeez my sprockets still look good.

    Decided to buy new frnt n rear as well.....wow, after putting them side by side I'm sure glad that I changed out my front sprocket. Rear wasn't so bad (38000Km) but sure glad I put on all new.
    Call me "Captain Mudbucket".

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    Have to agree. I could be persuaded that a rear could last two chains but I would replace it if I could afford it at the time. The front always has to be replaced in my opinion. The money you save on the sprockets you spend in shortened chain life.
    Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get me!

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    I am old school on this stuff and always changed chain and sprockets as a set but with todays metals and chain technology I have re - thought this wisdom and now change sprockets with every other chain unless the sprocket looks hooked or the chain does not fit snug, then of course I change them out.

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    Quote Originally Posted by OZDave View Post
    Yes, I noticed the tyre use in the other thread. Do you ride on glass or something?
    I couldn't get 7000 kms out of a set of Powers and they are similar. I ride calmly and smoothly too. No...honestly I do!

    Not glass... not even snow or grass.
    But in Portugal, roads are very trick! You can find sometimes, huge halls in High-Way!
    Regular roads have tiwsted turns and lots of halls where you don't espect!

    Portuguese are know to drive like crasy or lunatics!
    City streets are most like trial tracks. Thats why I try to drive carefully and smooth!

    In Lisbon, we have rails all over the city (for the old city trains), most of them not used for about 20 years!
    But they still there and everyday someone have accidents becuase this train rails. Autorities just don't care.

    SuperXX

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    It depends on many things whether you need sprockets or not,you shouldn't the first time your chain needs replacing.Original sprockets are pretty much top quality,normally Sunstar is the o.e.m. supplier in Japan,the fronts are chromoly steel and take more stress than rear sprockets but should last longer.Sunstar rear sprockets are hardened steel,better quality than say JT or Sprocket Specialist.Chain and sprocket life will shorten dramatically with not paying close attention to them.If your chain is constantly needing adjustment,it is time for a new one,if you can pull if off the teeth of the rr sprocket and see light ditto,a chain slapping around is murder on sprocket teeth.On the flip side,worn teeth on a sprocket allows good chains to become bad chains much faster,one kills the other which is why so many people,including mechanics will tell you to change all at the same time,it often ends up that way but didn't have to.I have had bikes with 60 000 km's on original sprockets-3 chains.If you go with aluminum on the rear expect 1/3 life of steel.Go with the best chain you can afford like a DID 530VM or better,the catalogues they are listed in will tell you tensile strenth and weight per 100 links(heavy chains are strong but rob power all you racers).I would not steer you wrong,I have been selling chains and sprockets for 20 years.Chain alignment being off even slightly will wear sprockets too.

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    I replace the front sprocket with every chain. The stock rear is good for at least two chains.

    (Edited to add the word "stock". I can't speak for other types.)
    Last edited by XXTi; 02-25-2007 at 8:51 PM.
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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    Quote Originally Posted by Partsguy View Post
    ...Go with the best chain you can afford like a DID 530VM...
    er... the minium DID chain recommended for the Bird is a ZVM, not a VM. There is a newer stronger ZVM2 out also.
    Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get me!


 
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