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  1. #16

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    The vm is an excellent chain,not as tough as the zvm2 but will easily stand up to a CBR1100,friends of mine with more powerful bikes have drag raced on them for years.I mentioned it as a base selection because it is cheaper than the ZVM2 by $30 Page 851

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    I have always replaced chain and sprockets as a set. Wear patterns could develop on a worn sprocket that would be detrimental to a new chain's longevity. Try and scrape up the extra money to buy a complete set. My
    -Paul

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    Well I 'll let you know, This last chain I did a new front and kept the factory rear. If I get less mileage out of this chain I'll know.

    The front is using only 9 teeth to pull the bike around, the rear 22. Always change the front sprocket.

    Also wrap your new chain around the used rear sprocket and try to pull the chain away will tell you the wear of the sprocket.

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    Thanks for all the input guys, I think I'll save up and do the sprockets to be on the safe side, a front one at least. this will be the Birds first new chain at 26000 km's. I don't suppose my kids have to eat EVERY day.

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    Actually good to hear. I though something was wrong with mine for only lasting 27,000ks. Some very impressive longevity claims have been made and I was concerned.

    ...and yeah, kids are tough, a day or so won't hurt em.
    Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get me!

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    Sorry to question about the longevity of your chains, but what kind of streets or driving you have to in Australia, to “kill” the chains so soon!?

    As I said before, my first kit last for about 60.000Kms and the second is almost reaching same age.

    May be the temperature in Australia, sand, dust, lack of oil in chain?
    I put chain spay from Mobil (Chain lube) every 300kms. From time to time, I use engine oil and left a massive quantity during the night.

    I still use original kits from Honda.

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    Nothing special I don't think. The is a local mountain range of tight twisties that I try to spin the tyre up on coming out of corners. Maybe an hour a week. Compared to the US guys, it's barely a hill. The rest is commuting or highway stuff. Very little high speed stuff, 260kph (GPS) once and vary rarely over 230kph, vast majority rarely over 140kph. Rarely heavily loaded, well, I weigh 100kg . No burnouts, a few wheelies. Thats why I was asking about the chain life. The chain is very well maintained and is just starting to develop stretch zones. You know the faint but annoying zing zing zing noise when cruising. I could probably stretch another 5'000 out of it easily but I don't see the point. It hasn't stretched much overall. Opinions?
    Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get me!

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    Quote Originally Posted by OZDave View Post
    Nothing special I don't think. The is a local mountain range of tight twisties that I try to spin the tyre up on coming out of corners. Maybe an hour a week. Compared to the US guys, it's barely a hill. The rest is commuting or highway stuff. Very little high speed stuff, 260kph (GPS) once and vary rarely over 230kph, vast majority rarely over 140kph. Rarely heavily loaded, well, I weigh 100kg . No burnouts, a few wheelies. Thats why I was asking about the chain life. The chain is very well maintained and is just starting to develop stretch zones. You know the faint but annoying zing zing zing noise when cruising. I could probably stretch another 5'000 out of it easily but I don't see the point. It hasn't stretched much overall. Opinions?
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    My '97 has 21,000 mi on it and the rear sprocket looks good but chain I think is about toast-with 1-2 tight/kinked links zones. I'm replacing front and rear sprockets with new chain. Some guys do it at 16,000 miles, so I guess it depends how well you treat it. Mine has been taken care since I've owned, but I cannot verify before I bought it. It is stretched close to the end of the adjustment range and I figure it is the original.

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    I'm glad it's your money you're wasting on sprockets that are being changed because so many people think you have too.Do yourself a favour,get a second opinion on the sprockets before you go buying new ones.The stock front sprocket is CHROMOLY STEEL,there is no way you should be replacing before at least 25.000 k's,I've owned 5 bikes and have never replaced a front sprocket,rears yes,chains lots-no fronts.I'm just trying to save you money.The sprocket chain myth is so rampant it's worse than the "synthetic will make your clutch slip"myth.

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    I bought my 99 Blackbird with 20K, and the previous owner had just replaced the chain and rear sprocket just before I got it. While I was changing all the fluids (forks,coolant, brake & clutch and oil), I decided to order an OEM Honda front sprocket. The original looked good until I removed it and matched up against the new one, and it had a definite wear pattern.

    I now have now put 17k on the chain (DID), and I think I will get 30-40K before I have to replace the chain. It still has a lot of adjustment left, and I faithfully keep it lubed with the Honda HP chain lube every 500 miles. Probably will go with the EK chain, and Honda OEM sprockets when the time comes. Not that it makes any difference, but I like the rubber dampers on the stock front.

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    Just replaced chain. Seemed to be a premature runout, only 15k miles on stock and yet adjustment wouldn't dial in the play. Replaced it with RK Racing chain without replacing sprockets. Mechanic inspected side-by-side and found little wear if any. Goes along with Partsguy's advice.

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    How many miles one gets with a chain is the same as how many miles one gets on tires. IOW, it depends wholly on how one rides and partially on the types of road surfaces encountered on a regular basis. You cannot base your chain life on how I ride or on how anyone else rides, unless you ride the same bike in the same manner and on the same roads. To determine when you need new sprockets, simply inspect the teeth for length and curvature. If the tips are rounded off, replace the sprocket. If they aren't, you don't need a new sprocket. The only reason some riders get phenomenal life out of tires and chains is because they don't ride aggressively most of the time. They may think they do, but the tires/chains tell a different story. And smooth riding habits always tend to produce better life for these products. Proper chain adjustment and wheel alignment to some extent - the chain is very forgiving of slightly mis-aligned wheels - is paramount to long chain life. Not to mention regular lubrication.....

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    Just replaced the original chain and sprockets today at 16,765 miles. I put on a DID ZVM2 Gold chain with AFAM 17/45 sprockets. I took a while cleaning out all the gunk that was built up both behind the front sprocket cover and the top of the chain slider.
    I overlaid the new sprockets on top of the old sprockets for wear comparison and found virtually no difference! The only wear I could see was friction marks on the "pull" side of the teeth. So Partsguy may have a good point there. Also, good advice from Speedygeezer. The previous owner of my bike probably was a very gentle rider. Anyway, it has always been my practice to replace chain and sprockets as a set, just for the knowledge that they are new, so I will continue to do so.
    -Paul

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    PYNXX-Good to know-I will be able to very on my own as well in the week or two. Of course, I have about 22k so my results may be a little different.

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    Re: New sprockets with new chain?

    Well said SPEEDYGEEZER.May we all be 71 and still riding CBR'S !!
    Al


 
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