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    Riding/driving in France

    just got a whole lot more tedious as the French authorities are installing another 400 sneaky radar cameras and next year plan 1,200 radar traps. DVLA will more than happily hand over your details to the Frenchies so they can then send you a fine and if you don't pay an even bigger one. Apparently on many roads they reduced the speed limits but didn't actually change the speed limit signs to reflect this so people were riding/driving at or below the indicated speed limit and were still getting FPNs from radar traps. They don't allow any margin for the inaccuracy of speedometers either. The French hate motorcyclists and motorcycling. All very dodgy.

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    Re: Riding/driving in France

    So it's that serious? Do you brits get tickets from france when you ride around those areas?

    Also, nowadays there are apps and maps covering the locations, is there something like that available for Le France?

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    Re: Riding/driving in France

    I have been going to Brittany for the past 15 years regularly and I have never found any problems except for a Gendarme around 15 years ago in a small van was getting pissed off with us bikers and cut us up quite badly but that was it our one and only episode.
    I have found French drivers very courteous and the French Police very friendly, what they dont like is a bunch of British bikers giving it big because they are in a foreign country they are certainly not anti biker.
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    Re: Riding/driving in France

    Yeah, a lot of times things get overblown nowadays, but the politics of installing speed traps on every corner for $af€ty reasons certainly doesn't surprise me. They're kinda doing the same thing here, but in this day n age you can research the cameras locations and ride accordingly...curious to know if there's a database about French trap coverage?

    On the sidenote, I do understand what you mean with foreigners acting up in foreign country, I'd say it's a psychological thing, you go outside your "area" and just let loose, I guess I understand it, as long as it doesn't involve alcohol-induced rearranging/redesigning of various locales

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    Re: Riding/driving in France

    Accurate maps showing speed traps are illegal in France. The best warning you are legally allowed is that the area in the next few km is a known accident blackspot I believe
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    Re: Riding/driving in France

    Quote Originally Posted by -Tom-
    So it's that serious?
    yes it is. There is an anomaly between British and European law (I challenged it in the British High Court!) that allows Brits to be fined across Europe from fixed cameras but doesn't allow it the other way. The French (subject of this thread) have 1 year to get the fine out to the UK. There has recently a large drop of fines arriving in the UK 9 months after the offence.
    What the French haven't got quite right yet is that a lot of the cameras are still forward facing so the number plate can't be seen (the flash is considerably brighter than in the UK ….. don't ask me how I know!)

    That said, for Brits, riding in France is still a wonderful experience, I try to get over there at least twice a year on my bike.


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    Re: Riding/driving in France

    Wait a minute, doesn't work the other way, you mean to tell me that speed trap photo in UK won't be sent to me in Croatia, if I even decide and dare to ride the England's green and pleasant lands?

    I've heard rumors but I can not verify - that tourists that come here, from ANY country, don't get fined with speed trap cameras. If that's true, that's just straight up scandalous. But that's just hearsay and I don't have anyone knowledgeable enough on the subject to ask.

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    Re: Riding/driving in France

    In Europe the vehicle is deemed to have committed the offence in the first instance (non criminal offence). In the UK it is the registered owner of the vehicle who is liable to pay the fine unless they can prove they weren't driving/riding the vehicle at the time of the offence (speeding is a criminal offence here). Not naming the driver, be that you or another person is a criminal offence here unlike anywhere else in Europe.

    Which is why the French (and most European Countries) can apply to our driver licensing system and get the name of the registered keeper and the fine is sent to him/her.

    I must admit I didn't study the Croatian Road Traffic Act (or what ever it is called in your country -Tom-) but during my day out at the High Court I did point out to Lord Justice Laws (couldn't make up that name!) that I appeared to know more about the Lithuanian Road Traffic Act than he did, whoops
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    Re: Riding/driving in France

    For the past twenty years my wife and I have visited or driven through France at least twice a year.
    I’d never had a speeding ticket – then I got two, in February this year – both dated during our
    September visit of 2018. Both offences were also defined as “6 km/h above the permitted speed limit”
    (that’s 3.728227 mph of “excessive" speed) and I was required to pay €45 on each count.

    I never even saw the bastard/camera that "got me", either.

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    Re: Riding/driving in France

    Quote Originally Posted by DAngel View Post
    For the past twenty years my wife and I have visited or driven through France at least twice a year.
    I’d never had a speeding ticket – then I got two, in February this year – both dated during our
    September visit of 2018. Both offences were also defined as “6 km/h above the permitted speed limit”
    (that’s 3.728227 mph of “excessive" speed) and I was required to pay €45 on each count.

    I never even saw the bastard/camera that "got me", either.

    Take heed. Take care!
    Do you get points or just the fine?
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    Re: Riding/driving in France

    Quote Originally Posted by Krisbiker2 View Post
    Do you get points or just the fine?
    No points come with the fine although our G'ment was looking to the possibility of adding them here for all foreign speeding offences!
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    Re: Riding/driving in France

    Oh and while I think of it did you know it was one of the British 'Safety Camera Partnerships' who introduced the concept of mass cameras to the French? Think it was either Gloucestershire or Hampshire, anyway when I was campaigning against speed cameras I obtained a copy of the presentation that was made (probably not legally filmed!) and it included the wonderful words 'Just put up your first camera and watch the cash roll in."
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    Re: Riding/driving in France

    The state of Victoria in Australia has the most unmarked mobile speed cameras, traffic lights that fine you for running the red AND speed and ever decreasing speed limits. Their mantra is "speed kills". I got done 3 times in 2 days by speed detecting traffic lights, 2 of them at the same light!. I had to laugh!. :-D

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    Re: Riding/driving in France

    You’d be laughing yourself into a cell if you did that over here!
    The powers-that-be would think you were taking the pee-pee!

    June 2018 at 1400 on a bright, sunny day on a motorway that
    was completely devoid of traffic. My mate was fined £60 + 3
    penalty points for riding at 58mph when the variable speed
    limit was showing 50mph... ...I repeat:

    ... June 2018 at 1400 on a bright, sunny day. Empty motorway.

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    Re: Riding/driving in France

    Yep Western Australia has had a massive increase in the number of mobile cameras, fixed red light/speed cameras and fixed cameras in recent years and last year or so they installed a point to point camera system on one of the major country roads in the name of "safety"
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