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    Cheap Radiators on the Bay

    Got back from holidaying in the south of France yesterday. Holed radiator. Bugger!

    The bike's done 53K in the last 4 years, so it's time for a "refresh".

    Has anyone used/heard about/been warned away from the cheap rads that are going for fifty quid-ish on the Bay?
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    I’m tempted – but I’m wary - if you get my drift, so if you’ve acquired a decent rad in the not-too-distant past your
    recommendation would be greatly appreciated! I know that JAWS is asking £175, but I'm too tight-fisted to buy at
    that price without checking around first.



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    Re: Cheap Radiators on the Bay

    I have one put on by the original owner, they are perfectly alright BUT be warned make sure the overflow spigot is the same as the Honda one. The one in your picture is wrong and will interfere with the fairing.
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    Re: Cheap Radiators on the Bay

    Got one here, 2 yrs now and no issues. Mine had the awkward angled spigot. Simple fix, i shortened it and used a 8mm compression elbow, short piece of 8mm copper and onto the rubber pipe. I suspect the JAWS ones are the same chinese ones simply rebadged and sold on. Just make sure you use good radiator paint ie
    https://www.frost.co.uk/paints-coati...ack-500ml.html
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    Re: Cheap Radiators on the Bay

    Cheers, fellas – a coupla good shouts there, as expected.
    I’ll check my rad and take some pics before contacting a seller,
    just to make sure we’re “on the same page”.


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    Re: Cheap Radiators on the Bay

    mine's been fine for a few years now. i didn't have issues with the overflow tube. only issue i did have was related to a previous owner's crash damage...

    upon re-assembly (with the new un-bent radiator), there was an unnoticed clearance issue with the fan that the temp guage & fan fuse so kindly informed me of...

    can't recall which seller, i might be able to dig that up from the home computer later if you'd like.
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    Re: Cheap Radiators on the Bay

    HI mine was the same i cut it down added a small piece of pipe and a push in pipe connecter jubilee clip
    either side works fine with fairing grills aswell
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    Re: Cheap Radiators on the Bay

    I have mine in place for probably 10000 km's or more, only one issue, when I (my mechanic ) installed it, original, new OEM XX rad cap was put in place. When the bike got into temperatue, the water would overflow from the back reservoir, the china cheapo rad + OEM rad cap didn't seem to work together well. Put the rad cap that came with the rad, so full China, all is well, on open roads under normal speeds the temperature can drop to 77'C (170F), on OEM rad I only saw it under 80'C in wintertime.

    I think it's a good bargain, I paid mine $50 but prices for them fluctuate a lot on eBay, I saw the same supplier ramp up the price from $50 to $300 within months.
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    Re: Cheap Radiators on the Bay

    So...

    ...I sent 'em an e-mail with pics...

    Screenshot 2019-06-21 at 07.48.43.png RADPIX.jpg


    The "correct" rad (indicated bottom left) is the picture they used in their ad!


    Screenshot 2019-06-21 at 08.04.09.png


    I'm sure I read somewhere that the rads the same for FI and carbed bikes.
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    I just bought an alu one on fleabay back in Aug 2018.

    A few points:

    - there are at least two versions out there (for carb (green tick in your pic) v fi birds (red cross)). They look slightly different, mount to the bike differently and host the fan differently. Some sellers labeled their stock as "fits all years". I'm not convinced by that. My bird is a '97 (xx-v) so I ensured I bought the carb version. Quickest way to spot the dif, carb version has straight sides and has 4 brackets to attach the fan, FI version has sculpted sides and only 3 brackets to mount its fan.

    - a lot on fleabay appear to be raw (unpainted) aluminium from the photos. The seller I bought from supplied it at least painted silver (I've used that as a base layer and sprayed it with "VHT" (very high temperature) manifold/engine black paint to look factory fresh).

    - on the stock carb version the neck of the filling inlet (external diameter) is narrower than the fleabay ones. Not by much but it means You have to trim the plastic airflow/ heat shield which attaches to the top of the radiator. A minor issue but forewarned is forearmed. I can't comment re the FI ones.

    - the new rad didn't come with any fittings so make sure you keep the rubber mounting gromets, bolts etc from your old one. Oh, and your old fan assembly itself.

    - Same for the thermostat (swap the blanking bolt for your thermostat bolt. Blanking bolt had a new o-ring which I've used as a replacement on my old thermostat).

    Now having taken the trouble to drain my old coolant,

    see [How-To]: Changing the coolant fluid. (new) https://www.cbrxx.com/honda-cbr-xx-resource-center/11145-how-changing-coolant-fluid-new.html

    I took the opportunity to replace it with a better fluid. Used Evans (as it contains no water so cools at a lower pressure… so less risk of leaks). There's plenty written in other threads re fluid choice so I won't repeat here. Just be mindful to look out for your two copper washers on the two drain plugs to either catch them to reuse (easy to flush them away with first spurts of exiting coolant) or simply be pre prepared to replace them. Make sure you use the right coolant if sticking with OEM equivalent. Horror stories seem to result if types get mixed (possibly creating a thicker gel or damaging internal seals etc).

    Also I'm took the opportunity to fit a rad guard as my old rad sprung a leak post a debris strike. R&G seems to be the favoured brand. Some complaint about difficulty fitting but that may be due to the carb v fi differences. I've opted for a DIY fix (perforated steel sheet from B&Q, VHT painted up and zip tied with metal zip ties plus a few silicon gromets sandwiched in between to dampen any vibration likely to cause a rattle) for a fraction of the cost (75% saving).


    https://www.cbrxx.com/general-cbr-xx...#/topics/47479

    Cheers Mallow1
    Last edited by Mallow1; 06-27-2019 at 5:42 AM.
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    Re: Cheap Radiators on the Bay

    DA- mallow is correct- THEY ARE NOT THE SAME
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    Re: Cheap Radiators on the Bay

    Thanks to all you guys for your input

    I ordered a rad today and, fortunately, its appearance (apparently) fits well with Mallow’s description,
    but I’ll wait until it arrives (next Wednesday) before confirming it as the correct choice.

    R2.jpg

    I'm still slightly concerned about the angles of the filler neck and the tube outlets as compared to the
    rad on my bike, but I suppose I'll be better placed to feed back to everyone next week.

    Thanks again, you guys!


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    Re: Cheap Radiators on the Bay

    Yep me as well, 3 years no issues, did paint it before putting it on though.
    I don't think it cools any better than factory it was more a case of the new one had cooling fins and my old radiator the fins had corroded away at the bottom.
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    Re: Cheap Radiators on the Bay

    Hi all
    So my bike is 1999, and I have been looking for new rad. as well.
    Here's what I found on The Bay, Do you guys think this would be the right one ?

    Link#1: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Aluminum-Rad...dV0aOI&vxp=mtr
    Link#2: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/FOR-Honda-CB...taOIVZ&vxp=mtr

    Thank you for your time

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    1999 is the cross over year between the old carburetor version and the fuel injected version. You need to know whether your '99 is FI or carb. It may be possible that you have an older carb version that wasn't registered until '99 or you've got one of the first FI versions out that year. Each uses a different radiator (they are not interchangeable).

    If it's got a choke lever on the left gearswitch (and an "S" sidestand warning light on your dash) it's most likely the carb version.
    Photo_1561251314324_1561251842487.png

    If there isn't a choke lever but you've got an FI light on your dash instead of the "S" you've most likely got the FI version.
    Photo_1561251537918_1561251882809.png

    I say "most likely" as it's not impossible that someone has messed about fitting wrong replacement parts because they're
    an idiot and/ or attempted to make a carb version look like a younger FI version etc.

    So taking off enough of your body work to see the filler neck and radiator sides will confirm which "shape" of radiator you have. You'll have to take the body panels off to fit a new radiator anyway so you may as well do it now to ensure you order the correct rad. Read post #9 above and earlier posts in this thread will then help you confirm which of the two types of radiator is fitted.

    All the above ought to give you enough to double check which version you've got and therefore need as a replacement. Don't simply go by what you read here, physically confirm it for yourself. None of us here accept any liability if you order a wrong part.

    Anyway, hope that helps.

    Rgds Mallow1
    Last edited by Mallow1; 06-22-2019 at 10:18 PM.

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    Re: Cheap Radiators on the Bay

    Thanks So mcuh @Mallow1

    Mine is a Fi verson,
    I'll take a look tonight and see if it's the right one!

    Update: I just bough one on The Bay, the picture from the seller that provided shows Fi verson, So I think it'll fit just fine.
    I also got a friend of mine in Japan bringing me a used oil cooler. in a very good shape, cost me less than $45.

    * IF you have friends in Japan, there are a TON of parts for Black Birds on Yahoo Japan Auction site. For such a good price. (I saw a complete engine for $450, only 35000 Km on it before they part the bike out)
    Great if you can figure out Japaneses and or have someone over there to ship it for you.
    Last edited by Master_Yi; 06-23-2019 at 11:03 AM.


 
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