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    Re: Changing the chain / sprockets , easy?

    Hmmmm 'vertical movement' I don't like if it is between shaft splines and sprocket along shaft I don't mind since it will assist in keeping the sprockets in line and not in a stepped relationship (lots of wear). Both my Birds have this slight along shaft play and I have never been tempted to take it up with shims.

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    Re: Changing the chain / sprockets , easy?

    Yes vertical or horizontal movement (on the Y axis and/or X axis) is no good imho, as it shows wear between the axle and sprocket..
    In/out (on the Z axis) movement of 1mm is ok and there is no need to shim it or otherwise...

    Please clear up on the kind of movement you get on the sprocket!

    Cheers, Chris




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    Re: Changing the chain / sprockets , easy?

    Had info from a Blackbird 'Guru' the front spocket must have play to compensate for any out of alinement of the back wheel which would result in damage to the chain and sprocket as mentioned by The Duck. problem solved Cheers !

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    Re: Changing the chain / sprockets , easy?

    Glad to be of assistance.

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    Re: Changing the chain / sprockets , easy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TESLACOIL View Post
    whats the torque settings for front sprocket anyone ?




    69ft lb for the rear axle nut it says in the 98 manual

    when on centre stand there should be 25 to 35mm slack of bottom chain run at the midway point between the sprockets
    G'day mate. Just do it up firm and use loctite thread locker on the bolt. It is better to check the chain slack with the rider weight on the bike. A little on the slack side is better than a little too tight.

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    Re: Changing the chain / sprockets , easy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TESLACOIL View Post
    i was surprised there was no locking pins on the axel nut or on the front sprocket drive nut




    i guess the chain should never get tight if u r bouncing up n down hard on the bike
    Yeah mate there is not any sort of rotating forces that should cause a sufficiently tensioned axle nut to work loose. The rotating forces on the counter shaft would actually cause the sprocket retaining bolt to remain tight hence why it only needs to be nipped up. The loctite really only provides peace of mind.Paul.

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    Re: Changing the chain / sprockets , easy?

    I changed my chain when i re geared. I learned a LOT of things.

    1) You can remove the old chain with a bolt cutter too
    2) You can remove the old chain with a couple good dremel thin fiber cutting discs
    3) Do NOT save a couple dollars and buy the crappy non hardened MOTION PRO piece of crap that every shop sells becasue it is cheap.
    4) Find the best price online and buy an RK tool. Hardened steel.
    5) I like the DID VM2 X ring chain in 530 of course. Good stuff.
    6) Never substitute a retainer clip master link. Use the enclosed "riveted" type. Do NOT peen these over or use a make shift tool like i tried. Use a proper RK tool.
    7) When sliding the side plate on the master link dont be a dink like me and forget to fully grease and install the x rings FIRST that are supposed to go there.
    8) The side plate of a riveted master link will not simply drop in place. This is normal. I thought something was wrong. The plate needs to be PRESSED in place. And it needs to be pressed just right. Not too tight on the rubber x rings and not too loose.
    9)We tried measuring the side plates to gauge this but ended up bending the chain back and forth to judge whether of not the side plate was pressed on tight enough. That method was subjective but accurate.

    I found a DUPONT product that is supposed to be the absolute shiz for chain lube. Do NOT over lube your chain. This is very common and ends up making things wear out FASTER as too much lube COLLECTS sand and grit that prematurely wears a chain. Makes a God awful MESS too.

    Never clean an Oring chain in a solvent. Best way is to spray a RAG with WD 40. The WD 40 or even Kerosene is used ONLY as a cleaner. Never SPRAY thin WD 40 on an Xring chain, you will dissolve all that nice thick factory grease coating the x rings.

    Once you have CLEANED the chain SURFACE then spray a SMALL amount of Dupont Chain Saver on the chain. IMO, it is simply the best in the world. Its DUPONT for crying out loud!

    DuPont Teflon Chain Lube - webBikeWorld

    Actually the Dupont Multi Use lube is not QUITE as good as their dedicated chain lube. there is small difference in the formula. The CHAIN lube is supposedly only available for INDUSTRY and not consumer use. Oh, in that case I REALLY want it.
    I did finally find it for sale. I forget where. Ok, i found the place. Here. The chain lube is supposed to be SELF cleaning. Thats a tall order...I doubt it. But on the other hand it probably does not have the propensity to have dirt and and grime stick to it. Good stuff. Goes on juicy and wet and drys to a wax.

    netMercury - Dupont Teflon Lubricants Aerosols Light Duty

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    Re: Changing the chain / sprockets , easy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TESLACOIL View Post
    im gonna leave the chain to the garage (saves me sweating and worrying and having to buy a special tool)

    i don't tour so chain changes are a rare event with the low miles i do
    Thats the other option. I HAVE to to it my self because of the differnent chains i will have to use when i extend the swing arm. I may have a 6 inch set up for the track and a one or 2 inch extension for the street.

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    Re: Changing the chain / sprockets , easy?

    Do you need to drain the cluth hydralic system to remove the slave cylinder for new chain replacement? The service manual says yes. But the Ducks instructions say no? Dont' want to have fluid everywhere by just removing bolts and hoping for the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbo50jeff View Post
    Do you need to drain the cluth hydralic system to remove the slave cylinder for new chain replacement? The service manual says yes. But the Ducks instructions say no? Dont' want to have fluid everywhere by just removing bolts and hoping for the best.
    No need to drain it, or open it at all. It comes off with the drive sprocket cover and can be wired up out of the way.
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    Re: Changing the chain / sprockets , easy?

    I installed a new EK prestreched Gold x-ring chain {on my fzx700 yamaha, I'm still saving for my XX} to replace an OLD O-ring chain, and got 3 mpg better gas mileage, AND I haven't had to adjust it yet, though I have 3000 miles on it. SWEET!! Phil

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    Re: Changing the chain / sprockets , easy?

    I bought a "cheap" Motion Pro chain tool. It might not be as good as some others, but it worked fine for me. Phil

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    Re: Changing the chain / sprockets , easy?

    Just done mine. Bought a cheap did type tool off ebay although had to splash out an extra £ 20 on a genuine cutting/riveting pin (has a groove in it) as this has a different dome profile and spreads the soft link to the correct diameter for the did 50vx and zvm530 chains. Bought a half decent vernier too. Took my time and was surprised how easy it was. My top tip is don't muck about breaking the chain with a tool. Get an angle grinder and cut one of the outer plates in half by cutting horizontally through the old soft pins. The chain will be off in less than 2 minutes.

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    Re: Changing the chain / sprockets , easy?

    Thats some good advice on fitting the link especially with greasing and spacing which is something I have overlooked in the past.

    As for chain lube I prefer a scottoiller and have a touring one fitted to both my BB's.
    The reason I prefer them is that they actually keep the chain clean as its oiled. Granted it makes a mess everywhere else as the oil is flung off but it also keeps the corrosion down to a minimum.

    any grit that is caught on the chain is flung off as its oiled and so keeps wear to a minimum too, I also use good old plain engine oil in it as the consistency is not that far off and it works for me.

    I was also wondering why I couldn't find any torque settings for the front sprocket but it seems now that the info is not there for a reason that it does not need to be tight ?




    I bought this chain off ebay and it was the cheapest . (it is an X ring GOLD chain)

    Cheap is definitely not best but anyones opinion on this chain would be appreciated.

    The after market front sprockets are not as good as the Honda sprocket I have noticed.

    Ive changed the front for a 19 tooth which i think will take it toll on any chain just because of its design.

    This picture is the genuine Honda sprocket which actually guides the chain more securely by not only pulling with the teeth but also allowing the whole link to sit as it goes around...



    Its reassuring to see the Honda sprocket as its a sign of good servicing from the previous owner where money is not an issue as its not the original at this mileage.


    This chain tool again was the cheapest but I think it will do the job sufficiently even if It Breaks after the first one...

    Last edited by mrpcpc; 03-02-2014 at 5:13 AM.

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    Re: Changing the chain / sprockets , easy?

    PCPC,
    the front drive sprocket is torqued to 40lbs, plus a touch of blue lock tite for insurance.
    Stex, out


 
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