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    If I install LED headlights, will I have rectifier problems, if so, how soon

    Reading over numerous threads, I did not find anything definitive but seem to be notes about regulater/rectifier problems due to less wattage usage of the LED bulbs? I got 2 LED bulbs (2200lumens) to brighten up my rides. Will this cause problems and if so, how quickly? Would I have time to take a 3-day trip before the problems arise?

    I have an 02 with 26,000 miles on it now.

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    Re: If I install LED headlights, will I have rectifier problems, if so, how soon

    You are wise to ask this question. However, no one on planet earth can say for sure when or if a 15 year old rectifier will kick the bucket. I would leave original bulbs in if the trip is immanent or upgrade to a mosfet R/R + LED bulbs. Read this site for more info Home .

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    Re: If I install LED headlights, will I have rectifier problems, if so, how soon

    You will be fine Scott, as the LED lamps draws much less current than the filament lamps which draw more current.
    Meaning less draw on your R&R.
    All will be well.

    Tell us about the difference U see at night and what product U chooses

    STex, out
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    Re: If I install LED headlights, will I have rectifier problems, if so, how soon

    stex, with all due respect, if I may draw your attention to the following math equation:

    {Total output from stator = total consumption of bike + electrical energy converted into heat by R/R}

    If you reduce the consumption of bike then you must increase the energy converted to heat by the R/R. Hot R/R bad, especially if you are still running an old style unit.
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    Re: If I install LED headlights, will I have rectifier problems, if so, how soon

    Quote Originally Posted by fizzy View Post
    stex, with all due respect, if I may draw your attention to the following math equation:

    {Total output from stator = total consumption of bike + electrical energy converted into heat by R/R}

    If you reduce the consumption of bike then you must increase the energy converted to heat by the R/R. Hot R/R bad, especially if you are still running an old style unit.
    Dang Fizz I'm gona have to open up an adult beverage to think about his one.
    Yep Fizz recon your right till he up grades to the new style RR's

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    Re: If I install LED headlights, will I have rectifier problems, if so, how soon

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthTexas11XX View Post
    Dang Fizz I'm gona have to open up an adult beverage to think about his one.
    Yep Fizz recon your right till he up grades to the new style RR's

    Sipping Time,
    STex,out

    He is correct brother, if not using the voltage it heats up like crazy potentially ruining your trip, leave the old bulbs til trip is over....
    Enjoy
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    Re: If I install LED headlights, will I have rectifier problems, if so, how soon

    Well, after looking to try to install the high beam (which will not be used much anyway), the LED bulbs fan unit expands to close to the bottom of the bulb so it will not fit into the headlight bulb socket. It contacts the wire retainer ring, pressing it in and then it just pops out. I am going to try a newer, brighter standard bulb at least for now and look for a different style of LED bulb to put in later. Is HID any better to use than LED (providing the R/R is upgraded beforehand)?

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    Re: If I install LED headlights, will I have rectifier problems, if so, how soon

    Quote Originally Posted by scott_01_xr400 View Post
    Well, after looking to try to install the high beam (which will not be used much anyway), the LED bulbs fan unit expands to close to the bottom of the bulb so it will not fit into the headlight bulb socket. It contacts the wire retainer ring, pressing it in and then it just pops out. I am going to try a newer, brighter standard bulb at least for now and look for a different style of LED bulb to put in later. Is HID any better to use than LED (providing the R/R is upgraded beforehand)?
    I have Leds in my Bird, They use less power than Hids or Halogen,
    You can see the difference between Halogen on high beam and the Leds in the picture, Leds light up the road like daylight,

    This is how you fit led lights in your bike or car, There are no extra collars or packers or other crap that people seem to come up with,

    The Black collar comes off the Led and gets put in the hole and the spring clip holds it it there,
    Then you put the Led in the collar and twist it, Thats it, Its installed,
    You do have to cut the rubber cover to go over the Led cooling bulb or fan,
    The Led is IP65 and will run submerged in a buckett of water,

    I use four sided Led Bulbs as they remove the Black spot in the centre of the light, 6000k White Light, H7 Bulbs, CREE Cobs, 280,000 Lumens a pair, Fleabay.com from China, $24-00 USD Delivered a Pair,

    The single Leds are $14-00 a pair, Delivered, But they have a black spot in the middle of the beam, Its not very big, but it annoyed me,

    My Leds have done 45,000 kays of the 105,000 kays my 05 Bird has done, Its still all stock,

    Whether it melts R.R 's or not I dont know, Mine hasnt,

    The sun isnt rising here every day, Its raining every day, Its snowing on the near by mountains, May be my Leds are causing that too, But I dont know that either, hahahaha
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    Ive been using a mix of hids for dipped and led high beam for the last few years, reason being led are instant for the flash and the hid lights up the road like nothing else.
    Never had any issue with the rr even when i ran both as led.
    If there was an issue with the rr getting hot if headlamps didnt draw much current then i dont think mr honda would give us a switch to run with them off?
    Just my two cents
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    Ive been running these outstanding Philips lumi’s for years! No mods necessaryat all, plug and play, no BS fans attached...fit fine inside the boots when you spread the heat sinks...OUTSTANDING QUALITY! On my second reg in over 150,000 miles... works for me!
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    Re: If I install LED headlights, will I have rectifier problems, if so, how soon

    Cheers all,

    Back in 2016 I tried some LED's in my then Aprilia Caponord 1200 and the were not superior to halogen lamps as the focal length did not suit the standard halogen lens/reflector. They looked more modern but were quite poor at night and had dull spots and they cost $200Au (2000lm).

    Maybe this issue has been resolved by now, but be sure your lamps are not scattering light into oncoming drivers eyes or they might be blinded and collide with you. There are many higher spec white/blue halogen bulbs available that would update the headlight from yellow to smart white/blue and being halogen they will suit the focal lengths of the reflector and lens and also keep the cut off pattern legal.

    I may be behind the times but i have not seen an LED conversion bulb that actually is better than a new halogen...... and they cost hundreds of dollars vs $20 for a H7(?).


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    Re: If I install LED headlights, will I have rectifier problems, if so, how soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Dave View Post
    Cheers all,

    Back in 2016 I tried some LED's in my then Aprilia Caponord 1200 and the were not superior to halogen lamps as the focal length did not suit the standard halogen lens/reflector. They looked more modern but were quite poor at night and had dull spots and they cost $200Au (2000lm).

    Maybe this issue has been resolved by now, but be sure your lamps are not scattering light into oncoming drivers eyes or they might be blinded and collide with you. There are many higher spec white/blue halogen bulbs available that would update the headlight from yellow to smart white/blue and being halogen they will suit the focal lengths of the reflector and lens and also keep the cut off pattern legal.

    I may be behind the times but i have not seen an LED conversion bulb that actually is better than a new halogen...... and they cost hundreds of dollars vs $20 for a H7(?).

    the tech with LED has improved, other things that affected performance was the size and placement of the LED lamp - also improved to almost perfect but you need to choose carefully, headlight designs vary and getting an LED bulb as close in size dimension and light source in the same place as original is very important, for those here wanting LED they should follow those that have had successful upgrades and use the products they used

    I have run with HID's for a many years and just switched to LED a few weeks ago and they are as good if not better than the HID's - both a night and day improvement on the standard bulb

    The 2x LED bulbs I fitted were fairly cheap - under $30 for both

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    Philips is the largest supplier of LED’s for OEM applications in the world and as many of you know, our incandescents that came stock on most ‘birds are also high quality Philips. These lamps are the real-deal and boast “true” lumen output. The also emit OEM beam patterns...but are “tuneable”as well up to 180 degrees. Mine are set at “0” vertically and BY FAR out-distance and produce a far-superior quality of light to any bulb you will find...anywhere. Study the tech specs in this link for an honest assessment. I’ve got them on three bikes...my bird for over 50,000 miles with zero issues! Also they draw 1-2 amps whereas our incandescents draw around 5. Make the investment if you truly want function over form/bling. You won’t regret it!
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    Re: If I install LED headlights, will I have rectifier problems, if so, how soon

    2016, You could not buy 4 sided Leds, They wernt invented,
    The Watts or Lumens given out back then were pathetic,
    2 sided Leds had a black spot in the middle of the beam,
    I tried quite a few of them in my Bird, Not impressed with the light output or spread which is what I wanted,

    I now run 4 sided Leds in my Bird and am quite impressed with not only the output but the spread of light,
    I gave never paid more than $24-00 a pair Delivered from China, 4 sided H7 Plug and play,
    2 sided Leds, Same specs were never more than $14-00 a pair delivered,

    My Leds are currently Cree H7, 4 sides, 1800 watts, 270,000 Lumens a pair, 6000k, White light, $24-00 a pair delivered,
    The price of these Leds are getting cheaper every time I look,

    The difference between Led, Hid and Halogen is night and day, I ran 65 watt Hids till I put in the Leds,
    My Leds shit all over the Hids, and the 4 sided ones dont have the Black spot in the middle of the beam,

    Most of my riding at night is tite twisty mountain roads, I can now see round corners, The spread sideways is excellent,
    They are instant off and on from low to high beam,

    These very same lights bought in OZ vary from $80-00 a pair to over $200-00

    The ones pictured are $17-00 a Pair delivered, 4 sided, H7 White light, 6000k, 1800 Watts, 270,000 Lumens, Plug and Play, 5 year warranty,
    From Fleaybay.com From China, They take two weeks to be delivered,

    Fleaybay.com.au, Fleabay.com.uk, you will pay $80-00 to $200-00 for the same Leds,
    Frank Switzer will sell you the same Leds for 180 Euro's, But he is a dealer,

    You can hold these in your hand while they are on, with out getting burnt, They also run in a bucket of water,

    Cheers, Brian,
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