Suspension / Tires / Wheels / Brakes: Discussion of Honda CBR 1100 XX Super Blackbird Forks, Shocks, Chains, Sprockets, Tires, Wheels, and Brakes.
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Favorite Tire Brand?
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Avon
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Bridgestone
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Continental
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Dunlop
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Metzeler
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Michelin
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Pirelli
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Other
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12-05-2006, 10:43 AM
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#1 | | www.blackbirdownersclub.e u Join Date: Nov 14 2006 Location: Lisse/Doetinchem The Netherlands Bike(s): 1996 Black Blackbird Age: 50 Posts: 205
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Hi Birdies,
Which brand tyre is your favourite? I restrict to only the brand, the model you can add in your post.
I use Metzeler Z6 Front and rear. Why? Because it is the best tyre I've ever experienced. Not too soft, not too hard. And behaves superb in the rain.
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12-05-2006, 12:41 PM
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#2 | Join Date: Nov 30 2006 Location: Chicago Burbs Bike(s): A little bit of everything Age: 38 Posts: 9
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I'm a big fan of Pilot Powers on the XX. Soft enough to be very grippy with ok mileage. Profile feels better on turn in than the others I've tried on on her too.
The track whore gets Dunlop 208GPA's for most tracks. About as soft as one can get in DOT trim, available through trackside support at most events, and they seem to go away fairly predictably.
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12-05-2006, 1:13 PM
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#3 | Join Date: Nov 24 2006 Location: joliette quebec canada Bike(s): cbr 1100xx black 1997 Posts: 21
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michelin pilot road, very high millage with trailer
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12-05-2006, 1:22 PM
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#4 | | Moderator Join Date: Nov 12 2006 Location: Medford, NY Bike(s): '99 CBR1100XX Age: 39 Posts: 1,403
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My favorite is the Pirelli Diablo Strada. Compared to the Bridgestone's and Dunlop's I have had, the Pirelli's perform great when cold and quicken the bike's steering. I think I will buy them again when these wear out, which shouldn't be for a while yet, as it seems I should be able to get 10,000 miles out of this set. My riding is 90% commuting/10% sport.
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12-05-2006, 1:40 PM
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#5 | Join Date: Nov 07 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario Bike(s): '03 CBR1100XX, '06 GSXR 750 Posts: 17
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Metzeler M1/Z6 combo. Great performance, and pretty good durability.
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12-05-2006, 1:49 PM
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#6 | | I'm Still Smiling... Join Date: Nov 02 2006 Location: San Diego CA Bike(s): 2000 CBR1100 XX Age: 42 Posts: 612
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Originally Posted by lacombe75 michelin pilot road... |
I'm on my 2nd set of these and I don't really want to try anything else now. |
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12-05-2006, 2:11 PM
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#7 | | www.blackbirdownersclub.e u Join Date: Nov 14 2006 Location: Lisse/Doetinchem The Netherlands Bike(s): 1996 Black Blackbird Age: 50 Posts: 205
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Originally Posted by northbird Metzeler M1/Z6 combo. Great performance, and pretty good durability. | I had also the M1 as a set before the Z6. I loved the M1 but the rear lasted 5000km max. So I chose a set of Z6 for its durability. Did you ever ride a Z6 set? (front and rear) If you did, what difference does it make with your combi M1/Z6 ?(I assume you mean M1 front and Z6 rear.)
The successor of the M1 is the M3. I didn't try them yet but it must be superb.
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12-05-2006, 5:49 PM
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#8 | Join Date: Nov 16 2006 Location: Chattanooga, TN Bike(s): 2000 CBR1100XX Age: 65 Posts: 77
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When I first bought my bird it came with Dunlop 208's which felt great and were very confidence inspiring. Unfortunately they only lasted about 3000 miles. I've also used Metzeler M1's on the VFR I used to own and they were probably about as good as the 208's and lasted a bit longer at about 4500 miles. I am currently running my second set of Pilot Roads and have been pleased with their overall performance and longevity. I now have a bit over 6500 miles on this set and they look good for another 1000 or so. I don't do track days or drag knee but don't ride slow either. For me the Roads offer the best compromise between traction and durability at a reasonable price.
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Last edited by oldgeezer : 12-05-2006 at 5:55 PM.
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12-05-2006, 5:55 PM
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#9 | Join Date: Nov 07 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario Bike(s): '03 CBR1100XX, '06 GSXR 750 Posts: 17
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Originally Posted by YO-XX I had also the M1 as a set before the Z6. I loved the M1 but the rear lasted 5000km max. So I chose a set of Z6 for its durability. Did you ever ride a Z6 set? (front and rear) If you did, what difference does it make with your combi M1/Z6 ?(I assume you mean M1 front and Z6 rear.)
The successor of the M1 is the M3. I didn't try them yet but it must be superb. |
You assumed correctly. I am running the Z6 for the rear. I found that I was going through M1 rear's at around 5000 km, so switched to the Z6's, and did not find that they impacted performance at all.
There was an interesting article in Bike magazine last month about tire performance - comparing track (Pilot Race) to road sport (Pilot Power) to touring tires (Pilot Road). For the most part the touring tires were highly rated by the test riders.
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12-05-2006, 6:08 PM
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#10 | Join Date: Nov 16 2006 Location: Chattanooga, TN Bike(s): 2000 CBR1100XX Age: 65 Posts: 77
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Originally Posted by northbird There was an interesting article in Bike magazine last month about tire performance - comparing track (Pilot Race) to road sport (Pilot Power) to touring tires (Pilot Road). For the most part the touring tires were highly rated by the test riders. | There is a similar article in the newest issue of Sport Rider magazine (USA).
Tire preference is all about compromise and your general riding style. What
may be suitable for one rider may not be for another.
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12-05-2006, 7:24 PM
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#11 | Join Date: Dec 01 2006 Location: Preston, Lancashire, UK Bike(s): 1997 Blackbird Posts: 58
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I've had two sets of BT020s-Bird Specific- so far
Did 10,000 miles on the first set which were on the bike, but not new when I bought it. 5000 on the replacement set so far...
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12-05-2006, 7:53 PM
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#12 | Join Date: Oct 18 2006 Location: Spanaway, WA Bike(s): '00 XX Posts: 713
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Pilot Power/Road combo here - probably won't change unless someone comes out with a sticky 15000 mile tire!!
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12-05-2006, 8:16 PM
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#13 | Join Date: Oct 19 2006 Location: Sierra Mtns Bike(s): 02 XX, 03 DL1000, 02 Dl1000, 98 SV650, 06 ST1300A Age: 50 Posts: 119
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Avon Azaro Rear (but not front as the profile is too steep)
BT020 Front - Been great tires for 40K ov VFR and now about 50K on BB.
If no Azaro available Bt020 Rear also. Excellent mileage, fair wet and good dry grip.
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12-05-2006, 9:07 PM
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#14 | Join Date: Nov 10 2006 Location: KANSAS Bike(s): 05' 1000RR, 07' 600RR, 01' F4i (hers) Age: 25 Posts: 70
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I have only run Metzlers on every streetbike I have owned I put three sets of Metzler ME880's on the Super Magna and I am on my third set of Metzlers on the XX I had two pairs of M1/Z6 but am currently trying out the M3/Z6 the performance between the M1 & M3 is pretty much the same but I am wanting to get more miles out of the M3.
In all honesty though if the Michelin Power Road was better looking I would run Michelins, the Power Road IMO is an ugly tire, but it is a fantastic tire.
My choices for the XX would be Metzler's, Pirelli Diablo Stradas, or Michelins I really dont think you could go wrong with any of them
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12-06-2006, 6:50 AM
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#15 | | Need 4 speed = Food 4 thought! Join Date: Oct 21 2006 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Bike(s): Red CBR1100XX 1999 + silver CBR1100XX 2001 Age: 45 Posts: 294
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What is wrong with the looks of Michelin Pilot Road? (I assume you mean those in your posting)
I know a lot uglier tyres (like Metzeler Z-6), and I never heard this complaint before. I still use a Pilot Road on the rear, and a Pilot Power on the front. I di like this combination very much, but I will switch to Metzeler M-3 next season, just to try them out. Since I am a wholesaler in tires it will not cost me very much to switch them back very fast if I don't like it.....
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12-06-2006, 7:27 AM
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#16 | Join Date: Oct 16 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Bike(s): 2004 Blue Blackbird Posts: 808
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12-06-2006, 10:08 AM
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#17 | | Vendor Join Date: Nov 01 2006 Location: So. Flo-da Bike(s): 2001 Red Bird Posts: 924
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After spending 10 days in Europe each year for the past 5 years and speaking to many Bird owners overseas about tire preference, I have come to the conclusion that Tires wear and handle completely different in the US verses Europe. I think, just a guess but, that the road surface compound or finish is made from different base material and as such effects different manufacture's tires differently. Seems the Michelin tires are not liked as well in Europe as they are here in the States. They seems to give some of the best traction both wet or dry but not the case in Europe.
Just my UN-scientific opinion that I have found in my travels abroad and listening to forum members here in the States alot.
Yes I prefer the Road rear and Power front combo as my first choice for milage and traction. I Ride all year round here in HOT So. Florida. A lot of rain fall also.
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12-06-2006, 10:25 AM
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#18 | | The Tire Destroyer. Join Date: Nov 15 2006 Location: Halifax, PA Bike(s): 1998 CBR1100XX 83,000 miles. 1994 Kawasaki KLX650. Age: 44 Posts: 144
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Originally Posted by John01XX After spending 10 days in Europe each year for the past 5 years and speaking to many Bird owners overseas about tire preference, I have come to the conclusion that Tires wear and handle completely different in the US verses Europe. I think, just a guess but, that the road surface compound or finish is made from different base material and as such effects different manufacture's tires differently. Seems the Michelin tires are not liked as well in Europe as they are here in the States. They seems to give some of the best traction both wet or dry but not the case in Europe.
Just my UN-scientific opinion that I have found in my travels abroad and listening to forum members here in the States alot.
Yes I prefer the Road rear and Power front combo as my first choice for milage and traction. I Ride all year round here in HOT So. Florida. A lot of rain fall also. | Yeah, I'd like some of the 10k miles on a rear tire guys to come to PA long enough to bald a rear tire, our roads must be REALLY abrasive. I only get 4.5k miles out of a rear till cord and that's Pirelli Strada, Metzeler Z6, B'stone 020, etc.
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12-06-2006, 10:33 AM
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#19 | | Vendor Join Date: Nov 01 2006 Location: So. Flo-da Bike(s): 2001 Red Bird Posts: 924
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Originally Posted by Pete-in-PA Yeah, I'd like some of the 10k miles on a rear tire guys to come to PA long enough to bald a rear tire, our roads must be REALLY abrasive. I only get 4.5k miles out of a rear till cord and that's Pirelli Strada, Metzeler Z6, B'stone 020, etc. | I believe you will get considerably more than 4.5k out of a Pilot Road Rear, even in PA. You are right about the interstate Highways in PA being very abrasive.
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12-06-2006, 3:57 PM
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#20 | Join Date: Nov 14 2006 Location: Valkenswaard, The Netherlands Bike(s): CBR1100XX Super Blackbird '99 Blue Age: 51 Posts: 40
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Originally Posted by YO-XX Hi Birdies,
Which brand tyre is your favourite? I restrict to only the brand, the model you can add in your post.
I use Metzeler Z6 Front and rear. Why? Because it is the best tyre I've ever experienced. Not too soft, not too hard. And behaves superb in the rain. | Hey Yo,
Are your tires whipped cream proof??? |
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12-06-2006, 4:11 PM
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#21 | | Carving lines on roads & snow Join Date: Oct 17 2006 Location: Auburn, CA Bike(s): '03 CBR 1100XX, '05 FJR 1300A & '08 KLR 650 Posts: 70
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Originally Posted by XXSIVSPD I'm a big fan of Pilot Powers on the XX. Soft enough to be very grippy with ok mileage. Profile feels better on turn in than the others I've tried on on her too. | +1
However, IF Michelin ever offered their two compound Pilot Power 2CT with a Pilot Road like compound in the center and a Pilot Power like compound on the shoulders, I'd have one of those on the rear and a regular Pilot Power up front. I'm guessing that combination would have me changing front and rear tires as a set (being close to worn out about the same time), and would be the best of all worlds in terms of mileage (primarily a rear center of tread issue), great cornering and excellent braking.
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Last edited by exskibum : 12-06-2006 at 4:17 PM.
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12-06-2006, 5:38 PM
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#22 | | Seize the day...everyday! Join Date: Nov 06 2006 Location: Flying through the Virginia mountains Bike(s): 2003 CBR1100XX 1982 CB900F SS 2001 Arctic Cat 400 Posts: 52
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I can't vote since it is restricted to one choice.  I have different favs and use different tires for different applications....
My choices in all cases are limited to three brands however...Michelin, Dunlop, and Pirelli...
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12-07-2006, 4:25 PM
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#23 | Join Date: Oct 21 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Bike(s): 03 XX, Plated 03 XR650R Posts: 1,200
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Originally Posted by lacombe75 michelin pilot road, very high millage with trailer | Your pulling a trailer with your XX?
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