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  1. #16

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    Re: BB + Bridgestone tyres, any experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by DietDrThunder View Post
    Just as an FYI, the 016 has been replaced by a newer model (the name of which escapes me). To the OP, depending on how hard you ride and how fast/far you go on the freeway, you may not be happy w 016 type mileage. Last Spring I put a new set on my XX and left for Deal's Gap for the Bacom Run (ride w. several guys on here). They were new when I left, as in stickers still on them. I live approx. 3 hours from the Gap...left on Thu night, ride on Fri and Sat all day in the super twist-o's, did some more fin riding Sunday AM, then high-tailed it home. When I got home, the front tire was about done, and the rear was virtually bald, from edge to edge...and I don't mean low tread or wear bars, I mean bald. I ran 38psi in the rear and 34 in the front, which is higher than optimal for those as far as grip and handling, but I dont' think I would have made it hope on softer pressure.

    NOTE: I weigh 275, so that definitely plays a part. I also ride in a...spirited fashion in the mountains. If Kevin sees this he can comment...pretty sure he saw the tires on Sunday.
    That's incredible. 275 lbs and spirited fashion notwithstanding , you have me concerned I may have made a poor choice . Unfortunately for me , it's not my first one.

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  3. #17

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    Re: BB + Bridgestone tyres, any experience?

    I cant comment on the 16's but mine is running BT023's and I hate them.
    They came with the bike and had plenty left left in them so I thought I'd give them a go
    but now I cant wait to get rid of them. They're ok in dryish conditions but offer zero feedback
    in the wet and we'll get quite a bit of wet here now we're getting into winter

  4. #18

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    Re: BB + Bridgestone tyres, any experience?

    Well, i can see everyone have different opinion on Bridgestones. I'm thinking about getting BT016pros or S20s in set for usual riding (twisties and trackdays) and maybe i'll buy a rear BT023 as well and i might switch it when i'm taking long tours with my GIVI boxes (E52 + 2xE41 on a wingrack 2) + T480 tankbag. I don't want to kill a supersport tyre on a long (1000+ km) road trip when fully packed. Well that seems to be a fair plan for me
    '98 BlackBird Been in the family since new
    Yoshimura RS-3 system
    Dynojet Jet Kit Stage 1
    K&N air filter



  5. #19

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    Re: BB + Bridgestone tyres, any experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by DietDrThunder View Post
    Just as an FYI, the 016 has been replaced by a newer model (the name of which escapes me). To the OP, depending on how hard you ride and how fast/far you go on the freeway, you may not be happy w 016 type mileage. Last Spring I put a new set on my XX and left for Deal's Gap for the Bacom Run (ride w. several guys on here). They were new when I left, as in stickers still on them. I live approx. 3 hours from the Gap...left on Thu night, ride on Fri and Sat all day in the super twist-o's, did some more fin riding Sunday AM, then high-tailed it home. When I got home, the front tire was about done, and the rear was virtually bald, from edge to edge...and I don't mean low tread or wear bars, I mean bald. I ran 38psi in the rear and 34 in the front, which is higher than optimal for those as far as grip and handling, but I dont' think I would have made it hope on softer pressure.

    NOTE: I weigh 275, so that definitely plays a part. I also ride in a...spirited fashion in the mountains. If Kevin sees this he can comment...pretty sure he saw the tires on Sunday.
    Yeah i see the 016s don't last long. My friend used it for about 1000 miles and you could clearly see a good amount of degradation. What else would you recommend, that would last long and would provide the same grip for twisties and track days? I also run on low pressure (35 font/37 rear) on my M3 Sportec Metzelers, they seem to work well and they last long. But they don't produce it anymore. I'm 200 pound by the way.
    '98 BlackBird Been in the family since new
    Yoshimura RS-3 system
    Dynojet Jet Kit Stage 1
    K&N air filter



  6. #20
    just do it
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    Re: BB + Bridgestone tyres, any experience?

    Pirelli Diablos 2,why dont you try them
    Just dont stand there,do something, rruff rrruff
    Wot u looken at. have a go ya mug. THE BLUE 1

  7. #21

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    Re: BB + Bridgestone tyres, any experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by spyromezzo View Post
    Yeah i see the 016s don't last long. My friend used it for about 1000 miles and you could clearly see a good amount of degradation. What else would you recommend, that would last long and would provide the same grip for twisties and track days? I also run on low pressure (35 font/37 rear) on my M3 Sportec Metzelers, they seem to work well and they last long. But they don't produce it anymore. I'm 200 pound by the way.
    That's not low pressure...that's pretty nominal streetbiek pressure. It's low compared to the load-bearing-calculated theoretical/recommended pressure in the manual, but not in relation to what works well (note that plenty of people run the 42psi number with various tires on the XX and are happy...I'm not one of those people ).

    IMO there is no meaningful discussion to be had that involves both street longevity, and track day traction. If you're going to do track days, the 016 (or now the replacement S20 IIRC) is the minimum performance level required, IMO (I'm using B'Stone as the example...not bagging on other tires).

    Pro Tip: If you're going to do track days, scour Ebay for a set of used wheels for your bike. Replace the bearings, make sure the rotors are good, and put some track-appropriate rubber on them. Only use them at the track.
    Dave Arkle
    WERA Expert #13, retired
    Nashville, TN

  8. #22

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    Re: BB + Bridgestone tyres, any experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by rollie View Post
    That's incredible. 275 lbs and spirited fashion notwithstanding , you have me concerned I may have made a poor choice . Unfortunately for me , it's not my first one.
    No, you may well be fine...I am a well-known tire abuser and do not get typical mileage I had a Triumph Daytona 1200 (pictured below) on which I did the same thing...left for Deal's Gap on Thu with brand new sporty tires on it (Metz maybe...I forget), and I killed the rear so badly that I had to go to Wheeler's on Suday morning and buy a new one. The one I took off was _bald_ (I think I took a a pic...will look) in 750 miles. Don't panic yet

    Note: this was before I raced, so I was all squid-tastic with my hanging-off in jeans behavior. Mea culpa.

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    Dave Arkle
    WERA Expert #13, retired
    Nashville, TN

  9. #23
    just do it
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    Re: BB + Bridgestone tyres, any experience?

    I guess you have to include your weight and the loading of the XX,some of us are between 20-25 Kg heavier of each other.
    Just dont stand there,do something, rruff rrruff
    Wot u looken at. have a go ya mug. THE BLUE 1

  10. #24

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    Re: BB + Bridgestone tyres, any experience?

    Been using bridgestone for 7 years never had a problem with them.Twisted or high

  11. #25

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    Re: BB + Bridgestone tyres, any experience?

    Just had the new Bridgestone t30's fitted, said to be developed from the racing world with the latest dual compound know how. T30 for tourers. S30 for sports bikes. R30 for race amateurs. My tyre tech said these replace the battlax bt range. Report to follow after this w/e ride. By the way the dual compound is clearly visible, harder centre, softer edges.

  12. #26

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    Re: BB + Bridgestone tyres, any experience?

    I have only just bought my BBird and it came with a new set of BT023s on it. I have to say I am impressed, feel pretty nimble and also seems to quite stable.
    The only wet riding so far was on the Motorway coming home and a few wet back lanes at low speed, but I had instant confidence to lean her over in the damp conditions on these tyres.
    Be interested in your thoughts on the T30 above. I have not had a bike with B Stones on for ages, but used to use a BT010 Front / BT020 Rear combo on a YZF750 and had no trouble riding that to the edge with my mates on newer, lighter bikes running track-biased tyres back then.


 

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