Aurora

Did you mean 185 mph?

John01XX

Yes they really work and work well on the Bird. they work better on a Bike than a car due to the reduced surface reflective area that laser requires for a signal return.

The laser gun does not get a good return signal to show speed so it appears that the operators aim is off. Just does not show a speed reading.

I have wanted to buy one for a few years but $400.00 just wasn't in the stars for me. I bought one second hand for $250.00 and it is worth the $400.00 price tag if you have Highway Patrol like we do that use them daily on the Interstates I drive daily. I just can't stand going 60 mph in a 65 mph zone mixed in with all the Gray Hairs. Motorcycles are suppose to be in the "HOV" lane, High Occupancy Vehicle, so I can make good time on the Bird with the Jammer going in the HOV lane. 80-85 in the HOV with confidence using the Jammer. When Jammer alerts roll off and brake to 65 till I pass the Trooper then back to 80-85. Trooper never gives me a second look.

If you live around alot of laser use then it is a good investment. A bit pricey but a good investment none the less.

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iXXion

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John01XX

I don't completely agree. I the lidar is line of sight the same as the M20 is.
As long as the jammer is within a couple inches of the targeted area, usually the headlight on a Bike, the M20 jams perfectly.
The only problem is if your helmet is targeted and it is to far away from the Jammer to give you any protection.
In a tuck the M20 gives complete protection and jams all the way to the gun on all the latest models that were available through Mid 2006. As tested by members on the other site as well as California Law Enforcement and a couple companies that test electronics as a business.

Specifically the BlackBird was used as the test motorcycle along with a number of cars and trucks. the Blackbird was the only vehicle to be able to Jam all six of the latest guns all the way to the gun. I have a copy of the test results that are available on the net for a price. I promised to not reproduce the test results in exchange for the 250.00 price. I actually received the same unit that was used in the testing on another members Blackbird.
I have done some testing myself, since I installed it, with known lidar traps set-up at known locations along my usual route to work. They always step out of hiding trying to get a lock on me. By then I have slowed down to legal speed and turned off the jammer and see them turn around and hide again behind a tree or other object and lay in wait for the next victom t come along.

If installed correctly they work perfectly. They will always give you enough time to slow down so that the lidar operator never realizes just how fast you were going. Granted if you are doing warp speed then the operator doesn't need a lidar reading.
I believe that I will never have to worry about getting another ticket by lidar for going 15 over the limit again. I can scrub off 15 mph in a couple seconds easily. That is all I need.

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Aurora

Why do you shut the Blinder off before passing the LEO?

iXXion

John...there's a reason the installation kit includes a level....so that you can install and align the unit properly. The problem is that unlike a car, a motorcycle tilts...and has significant changes in attitude with braking, acceleration, luggage, and rider(s) positions that also aren't experienced in a car.....and that will alter that carefully set alignment.

The transponder beam from the Blinder is horizontally strong...and vertically challenged. That's why the installation instructions do not include anything more than a sight alignment for left-right centering, but DO include a level for vertical alignment. There's enough coverage for realistic highway performance, but just like the upper cutoff on your low beam headlight, the Blinder's broadcast area is limited when you are aggressively leaning. You should have no problem, seeing as how there are something like 11 curves in Florida. :little smartass smiley:

iXXion

Presumably, so they will think its just that their gun wouldn't lock on, and not that they were being jammed. Plus, it gives visual proof that you WEREN'T speeding...eh?

John01XX

Shutting it off allows him to get a lock and see that I am not speeding. Stops drawing attention to me specifically. Let him move on to the next person.
Plus the local cops see me almost daily and often point to their helmet (motorcycle cops) because of the "Ears" I wear on my helmet. I have given out a few pairs of the "PIG" Ears to local officers as a joke so my bike is known when up fairly close. They don't know it is me at 1500 meters away until I turn the jammer off and they stop aiming. Then I usually get a wave or thumbs up when I pass by. Turning the jammer off is a courtesy that all the sites selling them ask you to do. Keep the attention off the Bike with a Jammer. We don't need any new laser laws !!

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Mustard

How does the Blinder let you know there is a radar ahead?

It is illegal to have a radar jammer here in Oz, so install would have to be discrete. A big flashing light on the dash with a switch to turn it off - not so discrete. Anyone got a pic of the install?

John01XX

On the Bird it is pretty discreet. The emitter is mounted flush just under the headlight(must be level) and is not visible walking around the Bike unless you are only 4 feet tall. I have a small single LED mounted where the base of the windscreen meets the dash aimed at my face that lights up green when turned on and turns Red when it is jamming. I mounted the small flush mount switch (dime size) on the plastic panel next to the forward left side of the tank along side of another flush mounted rocker switch that controls the volumn to my audio system.

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gourmet

Sounds like a good set up. They are illegal here in canada, anything that affects the police officers radar device is illegal, unfortunately I know this first hand. At least no demerit points, just a fine fo $170. in Ontario.

Brian

Aurora

But you are not affecting RADAR.

The Blinder M20 is a light emitter, not radio waves/energy pulse.

So, there is your answer.

zypp

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gudgravy

Granted if you are doing warp speed then the operator doesn't need a lidar reading (John01XX)
What if you were doing ludacris speed? What then?

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lois

Negative on that one good buddy....out.

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Toynut

So, are we on for a GB discount?

Maybe we can all save 50 bucks or so if enough of us raise our hands.

BTW,
I haven't had a ticket in 30 years, I certainly don't want to break that streak, but, sometimes I do feel a bit squidly when I'm on my FJR or XX, (sorry mom, them sikles will do me in, eventually)!

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N1K

+1

John01XX

I bought mine used from a member in California.

Someone would have to contact Blinder to see if they would do a Group Buy.

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cbrrash

Blinder will do group buys need at least 5 buyers to get a break the more buyers the better the break. I thought about getting one then just bought a escort 8500, I know it doesn't give you enough time on the lasers but I have heard that the blinder doesn't do all radar's either so you need both.

N1K

Yes, you'd need both to be covered from radar and laser.

Depending on the type of riding you do, a radar detector might completely fill your needs. Around Wisconsin, usually Laser is used in the city, or on the interstate (by the state patrol) And Laser MUST be stationary (unlike radar which a cop can be rolling around and be running.

For the most part, cops don't sit on back country roads (stationary) they are almost always patrolling, in which case, radar is the only thing you have to worry about.

On the interstates where cops sit and run speed traps all day, that is where laser is used most often.

For me, on the interstate, I've never gotten a ticket. I can always see far enough ahead, watch cars for breaklights, slow down as I approach the crest of a hill etc that I've never even been pulled over on the interstate IN my life. Its the backroads that I get nailed on while I'm in the middle of nowhere burning down corners and there's a cop driving the other way and I get nailed by the moving radar. IN that situation a radar detector is all I need.

I usually don't speed that much on the interstate anyway. 20 over or so, and then keep alert (watch overpasses etc) Having a laser jammer would give me peace of mind on the interstate and allow me to not have to be as cautious (backing off throttle as I approach the crest of a hill) etc.