hack garmin c550

testrider · 04-14-2009, 4:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banditob12

I joined the site just to see the pictures of the harness - none of them load...any ideas or pointers on how I can secure streetpilot c550 to ram mount?

I posted the pics originally. If you can't see it here, check it out here:

Garmin C550 GPS Mounting on motorcycle Photo Gallery by Minh Lang at pbase.com

jonscott · 05-08-2009, 3:25 AM

Man, looking at you guy's mounts, my setup is positively prehistoric lol

I ran a twin lead off of the battery, terminating with a capped Weatherhead connector at the front end of the tank. It will mate to a hacked triple outlet power port which will be inside my Joe Rocket Hammerhead tank bag. My Tomtom OneXL GPS will be in the top pocket of the bag secured in place by velcro, my phone (with a GPS tracking and Google Maps overlay application) will be in the other pocket, and the third outlet is for the forward video camera, if necessary. My plan is that when I get off the bike, rather than worrying about bolting the GPS and such down on the bike, I can simply unplug the single Weatherhead connector, pop the camera in the tank bag, and throw the bag over my shoulder for walking around.

TigreST · 05-08-2009, 6:49 AM

I think I may have mentioned this on another thread but.... Finally purchased the needed power supply cord with can be hardwared to the bike.

http://thegpsstore.com/Gilsson-GUSB5...1718C318.aspxe

The link may or may not work, but the cord is made by Gilsson and the part # is GUSB5VB. The cord is approx 8ft in length and includes the two stripped wire ends at the battery connection end and a 90degree mini usd plug at the GPS end. About at the mid point is the volta reduce device.

This unit includes the voltage let down as needed for the Garmin I'm using. I just need to get all the bits together and make the install now. Spring maintenance thrash on the bike is about to start so it will happen soon.

Tony

testrider · 05-08-2009, 12:23 PM

Whatever works, man, that was the only goal... :-)

I wired a 12V cigarette adapter that I got from Walmart to the battery and let it hang down the side of the seat. I just plug in my GPS to it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonscott

Man, looking at you guy's mounts, my setup is positively prehistoric lol

I ran a twin lead off of the battery, terminating with a capped Weatherhead connector at the front end of the tank. It will mate to a hacked triple outlet power port which will be inside my Joe Rocket Hammerhead tank bag. My Tomtom OneXL GPS will be in the top pocket of the bag secured in place by velcro, my phone (with a GPS tracking and Google Maps overlay application) will be in the other pocket, and the third outlet is for the forward video camera, if necessary. My plan is that when I get off the bike, rather than worrying about bolting the GPS and such down on the bike, I can simply unplug the single Weatherhead connector, pop the camera in the tank bag, and throw the bag over my shoulder for walking around.

DobleX · 05-08-2009, 2:34 PM

Nice work!

Heres a link of my GPS mounted on my BB

Mis Motovacaciones: GPS de coche en la moto

2000bluebird · 05-08-2009, 3:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DobleX

Nice work!

Heres a link of my GPS mounted on my BB

Mis Motovacaciones: GPS de coche en la moto

Nice, i like that, but hows did you take care of the vibration?
(i know the bird is minimal, but the road bumps and such to ensure it doesn't jump out?)

2000bluebird · 05-08-2009, 3:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by testrider

Whatever works, man, that was the only goal... :-)

I wired a 12V cigarette adapter that I got from Walmart to the battery and let it hang down the side of the seat. I just plug in my GPS to it.

thats what im doing shortly and getting a tank bag with a clear cover to put it in - im getting a car gps, was a bit cheaper.

DeathWish01 · 05-08-2009, 4:37 PM

http://www.cbrxx.com/members/deathwi...ure464-032.jpg

DobleX · 05-12-2009, 2:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000bluebird

Nice, i like that, but hows did you take care of the vibration?
(i know the bird is minimal, but the road bumps and such to ensure it doesn't jump out?)

No jump out,the trick is to insert a long part inside the hole (not in the sexual concept)

jonscott · 05-12-2009, 3:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000bluebird

thats what im doing shortly and getting a tank bag with a clear cover to put it in - im getting a car gps, was a bit cheaper.

Yup. Bigger and easier to see, too. Some of them will bluetooth the audio to the helmet (working on figuring out how to pair mine now).

TigreST · 05-22-2009, 3:17 PM

Took a day out of the life and mounted my Garmin 260W unit to the XX. Photo's show the finished product. The hood..how ever functional or not it may be,..was made from some plastic sign material. I simply cut it to shape then used the home renovation type heat gun to soften it up enough to bend it to the what I desired. Although I say "simple" this is the fourth generation hood. Again...I don't now how much shade it will provide..but it does give a Radar hood look to the install. The actual stem mount is made from 3/4 inch diameter Delrin (acetyl acetate) that I sourced from my model aircraft building supplies (originally intended to make motor intake venturi's). The top end is tapped to fit the RAM Mount ball threads,.and is also hexagon shaped to fit into the factory stem cover's 12mm socket head hole. This "socket head fit" provides for a "no-spin" fix for the device and also helps to hold the hole works into the stem by degree, if it should ever come loose at the lower end. The lower end is simply a angle cut device as you might find on your peddle bikes handle bar mounting neck. When the bolt is tightened, the wedge offsets and is forced against the inside of the steering stem tube....there is nothing hanging bellow the stem at all above the front fender, or anything that might impact the stock horn mount location near the stem.
Power is supplied via a purpose made cable as noted above in my previous post on the topic. I wired it to my existing relay which powers my Oxford heated grips. In like fashion as the grips,..the Garmin can only get power when the key is on...the power supply is "switched" due to the install of the relay.
Now I'll know just how lost I am!

Tony "I've never been lost...cause people are always telling me where to go" Bagley

DeathWish01 · 05-22-2009, 3:36 PM

looks really nice, i just used a hole that the previous owner drilled to put a cut off switch in on the left side, either way the garmins look nice in these spots

addman · 05-28-2009, 7:43 AM

Sorry guys, might be being thick, but where on the bike did you wire your power feeds into? On the Bandit, I wired it into the power feed for the horn as it's right there ;-) but on the blackbird, it looks like the wires for the handlebar switch clusters are all neat and bundled together into the instrument panel?

I see some people mention the tail light feed - could anyone point out where this is (under the seat somewhere, I'm guessing)? I assume you then just run the power feed forward under the fuel tank?

TigreST · 05-28-2009, 8:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by addman

Sorry guys, might be being thick, but where on the bike did you wire your power feeds into? On the Bandit, I wired it into the power feed for the horn as it's right there ;-) but on the blackbird, it looks like the wires for the handlebar switch clusters are all neat and bundled together into the instrument panel?

I see some people mention the tail light feed - could anyone point out where this is (under the seat somewhere, I'm guessing)? I assume you then just run the power feed forward under the fuel tank?

The link that follows will take you to a off topic post on the wiring of Oxford heated grips into the Blackbird harness. This is but one way to do the power install for a GPS system. Note: The Garmin unit used above requires the 12volt power supply to be reduced to 5.5 volts for GPS service. The power supply cord I sourced provides for this power reduction. To provide a "power when key is on" switched supply source I wired the GPS power into the aux. relay I installed for my Oxford heated grips install. The connections for GPS power supply include a 1) connection to the battery (-) post, and 2) a connection to a hot (+) terminal on the aux. power relay I installed for the heated grips. Should you like you need to only replace the "Hot Grips wiring tags with "GPS" power and you will have the same set up as mine. This ensures the power is off to the GPS supply lead when the key is off. Besure to double check your GPS power requirements,..you may find the spec's on the stock power cord cig adapter tag...it's in very fine print. You could also use the same wiring scheme to attach a cig power port to the bike and then plug the stock GPS cord into this aux. port. I found that the Gilsson cord made for a smaller cleaner install. The cord includes the let down circuit, a fused connection and a power LED to let you know that the cord is powered up. All of this is hiden under the seat.

Here's the link:

Wiring up GPS and heated grips

HTH

Tony

addman · 05-28-2009, 9:56 AM

Tony, that's great, thanks for this.

I'm using the TomTom rider power cable which, like the Gilsson cable, just has two stripped wires at the end. Like you say, neater than having a cig power port.

I think the relay is probably not needed with just a GPS, I can see the sense for something much higher ampage like the grips, but I think the TomTom should be okay (it certainly was on the Bandit).

Need an inline fuse holder then, plus those crimp style connectors.

Thanks again,

Adam.

TigreST · 05-28-2009, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by addman

Tony, that's great, thanks for this.

I'm using the TomTom rider power cable which, like the Gilsson cable, just has two stripped wires at the end. Like you say, neater than having a cig power port.

I think the relay is probably not needed with just a GPS, I can see the sense for something much higher ampage like the grips, but I think the TomTom should be okay (it certainly was on the Bandit).

Need an inline fuse holder then, plus those crimp style connectors.

Thanks again,

Adam.

I agree with your comment about "higher amperage like grips" comment. The relay is perhaps overkill for a simple GPS install. In my case I already had the relay available with an empty hot (+) power connection that was not in use. This coupled to my "gang connector" at the battery neg. (-) post made for a simple crimped-on blade connector install of the power cord for the GPS.

If you wish to have a "switched" supply but want to fore go the relay install,..then you need only connect the hot (+) side of you power cable to the tail light power (always on) lead. This is the one that is supplying the hot (+) side of the relay circuit in my diagram in the link above.

Tony

addman · 05-28-2009, 5:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigreST

If you wish to have a "switch" supply but want to fore go the relay install,..then you need only connect the hot (+) side of you power cable to the tail light power (always on) lead. This is the one that is supplying the hot (+) side of the relay circuit in my diagram in the link above.

Yep, that was exactly my plan. Got the connectors and stuff tonight at a local auto store, so all ready to go now on Saturday when I get the bike!

Scrappy · 08-11-2009, 6:17 PM

Does anyone do kits for the ram mount ball on the triple tree? .. I've got the ram kit but need the bottom ball kit for the bird ?

TigreST · 08-11-2009, 6:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrappy

Does anyone do kits for the ram mount ball on the triple tree? .. I've got the ram kit but need the bottom ball kit for the bird ?

I do not believe there is a "complete kit" persay. What I did was went to the RAM Mount Inc site.... RAM Mounting Systems, Inc. ......and had a good look around at the available hardware...then sort of built/pieced together my own system. I did not order anything on-line. Back in March or April my Beemer buddy and I hit the bike show in Toronto,..and as luck would have it a Canadian distributor for RAM Inc was there. They were selling bike packages sorta ready to go. I told them what I wanted and they pieced together a RAM GPS holder for my Garmin 260W,..and then all the connective balls and extensions I wanted. They never had to lift a brain cell as I already knew what I required. The steering stem mount "slip fit wedge device" was a bit of bike crafting I came up with somewhat on my own,..but I again already knew how I was going to assemble the bits to the RAM ball mount system. I got everthing I required (in RAM hardware) from the show vendor for a "show sale package price"...or just slightly over it.

There is only one thing I might change and that's the Delrin steering stem insert/wedge device make up...I may re do it and go with an alum wedge lock unit. The Delrin works well but I somewhat conserned about putting to much torque on the stem mount ball for fear of tearing the threads out of the Delrin insert unit. The down side (if any) is the use of Alum. (which is what the up grade one might be) material which I might use. I don't want to worry about dis-similiar metal corrosion issues and have to battle to get the stem insert out of the steering stem post. A bit of molly slip or other grease/lube may be enough to take care of this issue I guess.

Currently the Delrin unit is working fine..but I don't put a full locking load on the Delrin threads.

Maybe there's a market for the steering stem inserts for 1100xx operators?

Tony

Scrappy · 08-11-2009, 6:49 PM

Cheers TigreST,

Was hoping for some kind of kit .....

There is a guy in the UK doing garmin ball mounts for the XX and other bikes (on Epray) .. I could see if he has something I can use.

Scraps.

05-08-2009, 3:25 AM	#22
jonscott Railin' Join Date: Apr 17 2009 Location: Portland, OR \| Dallas, TX Posts: 672	Re: Garmin C550 GPS mounted on XX Man, looking at you guy's mounts, my setup is positively prehistoric lol I ran a twin lead off of the battery, terminating with a capped Weatherhead connector at the front end of the tank. It will mate to a hacked triple outlet power port which will be inside my Joe Rocket Hammerhead tank bag. My Tomtom OneXL GPS will be in the top pocket of the bag secured in place by velcro, my phone (with a GPS tracking and Google Maps overlay application) will be in the other pocket, and the third outlet is for the forward video camera, if necessary. My plan is that when I get off the bike, rather than worrying about bolting the GPS and such down on the bike, I can simply unplug the single Weatherhead connector, pop the camera in the tank bag, and throw the bag over my shoulder for walking around. __________________ When you see a car, think of the stupidest thing the driver could do, then get prepared for it to happen.

05-08-2009, 6:49 AM	#23
TigreST Join Date: Jun 03 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 792	Re: Garmin C550 GPS mounted on XX I think I may have mentioned this on another thread but.... Finally purchased the needed power supply cord with can be hardwared to the bike. http://thegpsstore.com/Gilsson-GUSB5...1718C318.aspxe The link may or may not work, but the cord is made by Gilsson and the part # is GUSB5VB. The cord is approx 8ft in length and includes the two stripped wire ends at the battery connection end and a 90degree mini usd plug at the GPS end. About at the mid point is the volta reduce device. This unit includes the voltage let down as needed for the Garmin I'm using. I just need to get all the bits together and make the install now. Spring maintenance thrash on the bike is about to start so it will happen soon. Tony __________________ "Stemmata quid faciunt." Last edited by TigreST; 05-08-2009 at 7:00 AM.

05-08-2009, 2:34 PM	#25
DobleX Join Date: Sep 22 2007 Location: Barcelona,Spain Age: 36 Posts: 44	Re: Garmin C550 GPS mounted on XX Nice work! Heres a link of my GPS mounted on my BB Mis Motovacaciones: GPS de coche en la moto __________________ www.mismotovacaciones.blogspot.com www.cbr1100xxsuperblackbird.blogspot.com www.blackbirdowners.crearforo.com

05-28-2009, 7:43 AM	#33
addman Join Date: May 23 2009 Location: Bedfordshire, UK Posts: 16	Re: Garmin C550 GPS mounted on XX Sorry guys, might be being thick, but where on the bike did you wire your power feeds into? On the Bandit, I wired it into the power feed for the horn as it's right there ;-) but on the blackbird, it looks like the wires for the handlebar switch clusters are all neat and bundled together into the instrument panel? I see some people mention the tail light feed - could anyone point out where this is (under the seat somewhere, I'm guessing)? I assume you then just run the power feed forward under the fuel tank?

05-28-2009, 9:56 AM	#35
addman Join Date: May 23 2009 Location: Bedfordshire, UK Posts: 16	Re: Garmin C550 GPS mounted on XX Tony, that's great, thanks for this. I'm using the TomTom rider power cable which, like the Gilsson cable, just has two stripped wires at the end. Like you say, neater than having a cig power port. I think the relay is probably not needed with just a GPS, I can see the sense for something much higher ampage like the grips, but I think the TomTom should be okay (it certainly was on the Bandit). Need an inline fuse holder then, plus those crimp style connectors. Thanks again, Adam.

08-11-2009, 6:17 PM	#38
Scrappy Dog With Atittude .. Woof! Join Date: May 31 2009 Location: Mansfield UK Age: 45 Posts: 968	Re: Garmin C550 GPS mounted on XX Does anyone do kits for the ram mount ball on the triple tree? .. I've got the ram kit but need the bottom ball kit for the bird ?

08-11-2009, 6:49 PM	#40
Scrappy Dog With Atittude .. Woof! Join Date: May 31 2009 Location: Mansfield UK Age: 45 Posts: 968	Re: Garmin C550 GPS mounted on XX Cheers TigreST, Was hoping for some kind of kit ..... There is a guy in the UK doing garmin ball mounts for the XX and other bikes (on Epray) .. I could see if he has something I can use. Scraps.

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