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How many of you use your clutch to shift up through the gears
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07-17-2008, 10:23 PM
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#1 | Join Date: May 17 2008 Location: Hustisford WI Bike(s): 2003 blackbird,1992 suzuki gsxr 1100 Age: 28 Posts: 363
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Im wondering how many people use there clutch when shifting up through the gears. I always used to do it till I talked to a few people that have been rideing for years and neither one of them do, so I changed and am still not sure if Im hurting the gearbox in anyway.
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07-17-2008, 10:35 PM
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#2 | | TEDZXX Join Date: Jan 22 2008 Location: Lockhart, Texas Bike(s): 2002 Honda CBR1100XX (Silver) Blackbird Age: 43 Posts: 1,059
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I on occasion will shift up through the gears without the clutch on mild acceleration. Hard acceleration is a big no-no. You will find all those neutral gears.
You aren't hurting the gear box at all as long as you arent banging it into gear. A slight ease off the throttle and shift up is what you are talking about right?
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07-17-2008, 10:42 PM
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#3 | Join Date: May 17 2008 Location: Hustisford WI Bike(s): 2003 blackbird,1992 suzuki gsxr 1100 Age: 28 Posts: 363
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Yes I do let up on the throttle before I shift I just dont grab the clutch
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07-18-2008, 1:07 AM
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#4 | | TEDZXX Join Date: Jan 22 2008 Location: Lockhart, Texas Bike(s): 2002 Honda CBR1100XX (Silver) Blackbird Age: 43 Posts: 1,059
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Nothing to worry about there.
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07-18-2008, 7:29 AM
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#5 | Join Date: Oct 30 2006 Location: Norway Bike(s): 1997 Blackbird Posts: 376
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I prefer clutchless upshifts, but occationally (following slow traffic, riding with pillion etc) I use the clutch. Basicly, if I can't accelerate (mildly or aggressively) prior to the upshift, I use the clutch.
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07-18-2008, 7:36 AM
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#6 | Join Date: Jun 12 2007 Location: GREECE-ATHENS Bike(s): Cbr1100xx 02 tahitian blue Age: 38 Posts: 609
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good synchronization and practice will make smooth and quiet(!!)..clutchless changes.....
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07-18-2008, 8:33 AM
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#7 | | The Original Bird Watcher Join Date: May 28 2007 Location: Gundagai, Australia Bike(s): 2003 Blue Blackbird Posts: 162
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I always use the clutch cause I am paranoid of breaking something if I dont use it. I like to stack the odds in my favour so to speak....
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07-18-2008, 10:56 AM
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#8 | Join Date: Nov 25 2006 Location: canada Bike(s): '02 metalic cherry red CBR 1100 XX Posts: 1,670
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I'm not interested in saving milli seconds so I use the clutch.
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07-18-2008, 11:31 AM
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#9 | Join Date: Jul 17 2008 Location: UK, Kent Bike(s): CBR1100XX, CBR 929 RR1, RGV250VJ21 Posts: 6
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With a pillion on I always shift up 'clutchless' ..it smooths the change and avoids that 'occasional headbut' ... When I'm 'on song' I will 'blip' the clutch ...not a full pull but perhaps 1/4 ..I find that will avoid the false neutrals ..Honda boxes are notorious for being 'clunky'
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07-18-2008, 12:15 PM
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#10 | Join Date: Oct 30 2006 Location: Norway Bike(s): 1997 Blackbird Posts: 376
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The more aggressive I ride, the less likely I am to use the clutch. When performed correctly, a clutchless upshift will not cause excessive wear and tear..!
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07-18-2008, 12:58 PM
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#11 | Join Date: Dec 23 2006 Location: Ont,Canada Bike(s): 99 CBR1100 some mods,91 CBR600 lot's o' mods Posts: 472
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Hard acceleration is fine,in fact I find it's smoother at higher rpm.I have tried both styles at the strip and always go back to full throttle,blip the clutch no letting off because I seem to be more consistent that way.When I go clutchless I tend to slightly vary how much throttle I use but it feels smoother.I have missed shifts now and again and have no damage to the tranny,my 600 had a lot more abuse and never missed a beat.
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07-31-2008, 9:35 PM
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#12 | Join Date: Jun 24 2008 Location: Australia NSW Sydney Bike(s): 2004 Honda Blackbird Posts: 54
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I also shift up by slightly backing off the throttle I find it shifts easily and more smoothly.It doesnt do any damadge as far as I know.However I usually do this when the engine has warmed up a bit and the oil has had a chance to lubricate,which only takes a few minutes.I do clutch going from 1st to 2nd gear going up and also when changing down gears.
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07-31-2008, 9:46 PM
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#13 | Join Date: Jun 25 2007 Location: Chicago, Illinios Bike(s): 1999 CBR1100XX and 1988 CBR1000F Stock & excellent Posts: 1,237
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I go clutchless occassionaly but really prefer to use the clutch. Makes me feel more involved. I also like to see how smooth and precise I can make the shift feel trying all the while to make if feel like the CVT transmission in my car.
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08-01-2008, 6:09 AM
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#14 | Join Date: Jun 02 2008 Location: Italy Bike(s): Red Devil Age: 48 Posts: 50
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It always good to use the clutch to change gears but there deny that I sometimes the inclusion marches up not use that gives me a more rapid move from low to high speeds gaining speed very rarely happened to me to miss a gear and having to clutch!
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08-01-2008, 10:14 AM
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#15 | Join Date: Nov 10 2006 Location: San Diego CA Bike(s): 97CBR1100XX with some extras Age: 32 Posts: 177
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clutch is used for take off and landings only!
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08-01-2008, 11:33 AM
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#16 | Join Date: Jan 04 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Bike(s): XX, YZ450, ZX6R, RSVR, KTM525, Commando 850, CR Age: 45 Posts: 556
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I dont use the clutch much street bikes for the up shift....I use it alot on the down shift.
I use it perpetually on dirt or supermoto.
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