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"Red Light Changer"
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06-16-2008, 10:50 PM
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#1 | Join Date: Jun 12 2008 Location: Houston TX Bike(s): 1999 CBR1100XX Posts: 11
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I thought this must have been brought up before but kept trying different searches and didn't find anything.....
Anyhow, does anybody have any experience with the "Red Light Changer" magnet dealies???? Like this.... Red Light Changer
I get tired of running "left turn" traffic lights. I am really curious if they work or not.
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06-16-2008, 10:58 PM
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#2 | | ... Get A Good Lawyer ! Join Date: Dec 20 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Bike(s): Honda '07 CBR1100XX Super Blackbird Age: 44 Posts: 1,904
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If it uses no power it must be just a hunk of magnetic material because this is what triggers the wire loop in the road.
Highly dubious product, methinks.
Lets face it, if 220 kgs of metal does disturb a magnetic field than this 'box' won't either ! ........... Just my 2 cents !
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06-16-2008, 11:04 PM
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#3 | Join Date: Nov 06 2006 Location: Red Deer Bike(s): JUST A GIXXER AND AN XX....OK? Posts: 1,405
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Originally Posted by DragonXX If it uses no power it must be just a hunk of magnetic material because this is what triggers the wire loop in the road.
Highly dubious product, methinks.
Lets face it, if 220 kgs of metal does disturb a magnetic field than this 'box' won't either ! ........... Just my 2 cents ! |
I agree with Dragon on this one.
By the way....whats that in Lbs ?
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06-16-2008, 11:07 PM
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#4 | | ... Get A Good Lawyer ! Join Date: Dec 20 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Bike(s): Honda '07 CBR1100XX Super Blackbird Age: 44 Posts: 1,904
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Originally Posted by lois I agree with Dragon on this one.
By the way....whats that in Lbs ? |
220 kgs x 2.2 = 484 lbs
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06-16-2008, 11:25 PM
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#5 | Join Date: Jun 12 2008 Location: Houston TX Bike(s): 1999 CBR1100XX Posts: 11
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Yeah, I agree Dragon.... It seems difficult to believe... I just can't find any comments anywhere (here or Google) from people who have tried one.... I have seen several different designs and hope eventually I will run across an actual user to comment on them..
Thanks for the thoughts...
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06-16-2008, 11:29 PM
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#6 | | ... Get A Good Lawyer ! Join Date: Dec 20 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Bike(s): Honda '07 CBR1100XX Super Blackbird Age: 44 Posts: 1,904
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Originally Posted by dug1967 Yeah, I agree Dragon.... It seems difficult to believe... I just can't find any comments anywhere (here or Google) from people who have tried one.... I have seen several different designs and hope eventually I will run across an actual user to comment on them..
Thanks for the thoughts... | Maybe they are all too embarrassed to admit they got suckered into buying one
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06-17-2008, 6:16 AM
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#7 | | Moderator Join Date: Aug 31 2007 Location: Seaford, Victoria, Australia Bike(s): 2007 CBR1100XX Age: 41 Posts: 2,287
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Maybe they are a bit like Peter Brocks "Energy Polarizer"
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06-17-2008, 6:41 AM
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#8 | | ... Get A Good Lawyer ! Join Date: Dec 20 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Bike(s): Honda '07 CBR1100XX Super Blackbird Age: 44 Posts: 1,904
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Originally Posted by Nutter67 Maybe they are a bit like Peter Brocks "Energy Polarizer" |
Vale: The great Peter Brock
But I'm sure that if he had things over again, that part of his life would be quite different
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06-17-2008, 6:46 AM
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#9 | | Moderator Join Date: Aug 31 2007 Location: Seaford, Victoria, Australia Bike(s): 2007 CBR1100XX Age: 41 Posts: 2,287
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Somehow I dont think it would. Brocky was never backward in coming forward.
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06-17-2008, 1:45 PM
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#10 | Join Date: Feb 26 2008 Location: Northeast Ohio Bike(s): 2001 CBR1100XX (The Red Year) Age: 24 Posts: 417
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you'd be suprised how much more a magnet disturbs a field than steel does....
they are pretty cheap, give 1 a shot...
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06-17-2008, 1:50 PM
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#11 | Join Date: Dec 25 2006 Location: Texas Bike(s): 2002 CBR1100XX Posts: 9
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Actually I have tried the Green Light Triggers and have been satisfied with the results. I tried one but there was a particular light that it did not work on so I added another one. In the last six years I had not any problems with traffic lights.
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06-17-2008, 1:51 PM
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#12 | Join Date: May 17 2008 Location: Hustisford WI Bike(s): 2003 blackbird,1992 suzuki gsxr 1100 Age: 28 Posts: 364
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If you do let me know how they work. I cant afford to get cought running a red so Im stuck sitting there till it changes.
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06-17-2008, 2:35 PM
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#13 | Join Date: Dec 25 2006 Location: Texas Bike(s): 2002 CBR1100XX Posts: 9
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As I mentioned earlier, the two on my Blackbird work just fine. Much better than using just one. The one's that I purchased were branded "Green Light Trigger".
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06-17-2008, 3:17 PM
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#14 | Join Date: Jun 12 2008 Location: Houston TX Bike(s): 1999 CBR1100XX Posts: 11
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Originally Posted by SPIDERMAN12 As I mentioned earlier, the two on my Blackbird work just fine. Much better than using just one. The one's that I purchased were branded "Green Light Trigger". |
Thanks for the reply Spidie... I have seen that "Green Light Trigger" one and was thinking about trying it. Thanks for letting me know it works for you.
When you say you have two, is it two of the original design or two of the new "HP" design?
Thanks for the info.
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06-17-2008, 3:51 PM
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#15 | Join Date: May 01 2008 Location: S. Puget Sound, WA Bike(s): '92 VFR750F, '03 CBR1100XX Age: 43 Posts: 157
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You can sometimes get results by putting your sidestand on the sealer strip and revving the engine. The vibration as well as the Engine generating a bit of a EM field will sometimes trip the sensor. There generally isn't enough ferrous metal in a motorcycle to trip the sensor the same way a cage can. That is as least part of the reason that those sensors are being replaced by cameras.
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06-17-2008, 5:32 PM
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#16 | Join Date: Mar 27 2007 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Bike(s): 2002 CBR 1100XX dual CF devil pipes. 1982 XL500R Age: 26 Posts: 206
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Originally Posted by Growler67 You can sometimes get results by putting your sidestand on the sealer strip and revving the engine. The vibration as well as the Engine generating a bit of a EM field will sometimes trip the sensor. There generally isn't enough ferrous metal in a motorcycle to trip the sensor the same way a cage can. That is as least part of the reason that those sensors are being replaced by cameras. |  ... you beat me to it. I don't even think you need to rev the engine. A lot of people say to turn the bike off and start it, as this produces large amounts of EMF, but you'd have to time it just right as most sensors aren't "checking" for traffic constantly. I know of one in particular that only checks every 60 seconds.
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06-17-2008, 7:36 PM
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#17 | | ... Get A Good Lawyer ! Join Date: Dec 20 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Bike(s): Honda '07 CBR1100XX Super Blackbird Age: 44 Posts: 1,904
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You guys at least have electronically controlled lights. Most of the ones in this part of the world are still on the old fashioned timer set-up. So hanging a large chunk of magnetite on the bottom of the 'Bird won't help !
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06-17-2008, 11:13 PM
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#18 | Join Date: Jun 21 2007 Location: Springwood, West of Hell (Sydney), Australia Bike(s): Red '98 'bird gone, not forgotten, Black '07 Bird Age: 41 Posts: 493
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They may be on timers, Dragon, but if there isn't a car there, the timer doesn't trigger. (At least, not at night when traffic is low. In Sydney, anyway.) Look for the induction loops in the ground just before the lights.
Sticking a couple of kgs of steel on the bottom of the bike would work as well as anything else, really, we had an induction triggered vehicle door where I worked that we used to trigger so we could walk through using the steel cap from a nitrogen cylinder.
On further thought, a powerful magnet would trigger a change in the current in the loop, but it would need to move across the loop as quickly as possible for best effect. Generally, these sensors just look for an increase in induction in the loop caused by conductive material. Ferrous metals, of course, work best. A magnet will cause a spike in the current as it crosses the windings, but would have little when stationary.
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06-18-2008, 11:05 AM
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#19 | Join Date: Nov 25 2006 Location: canada Bike(s): '02 metalic cherry red CBR 1100 XX Posts: 2,007
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06-18-2008, 11:34 AM
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#20 | Join Date: Feb 26 2008 Location: Northeast Ohio Bike(s): 2001 CBR1100XX (The Red Year) Age: 24 Posts: 417
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canadianbird...
we're referring to lights at intersections with sensors...
if there is no traffic on one side of the light, the other side stays green...indefinitely...
the "trigger" sometimes isn't sensitive enough to pick up a motorcycle waiting, so the cycle would be stuck there until a car came along, or until he died from boredom...
it should be called a "sensor switch" or something because green light trigger sounds like something ambulances have where they ALWAYS have a green light, regardless of direction of travel...
there have been a few people that get ahold of these units out of junked ambulances, but the cops aren't pleased by people who use them...
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06-18-2008, 11:36 AM
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#21 | Join Date: May 17 2008 Location: Hustisford WI Bike(s): 2003 blackbird,1992 suzuki gsxr 1100 Age: 28 Posts: 364
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Canadian it would be fine if the wait was only a few seconds. Ive waited over two mins. already for a light to change before I gave up and just ran it.
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06-18-2008, 8:13 PM
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#22 | | ... Get A Good Lawyer ! Join Date: Dec 20 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Bike(s): Honda '07 CBR1100XX Super Blackbird Age: 44 Posts: 1,904
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Originally Posted by CanadianBird | The only thing that is cheap now is life
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06-18-2008, 8:28 PM
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#23 | Join Date: Nov 24 2006 Location: Greensboro, NC Bike(s): 1997 CBR1100XX, 1994 Honda Magna Age: 44 Posts: 441
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I had a Green Light Trigger, and it seemed to help at some lights and not at others. It is not that I was impatient, but some lights just did not recognize the bike being there and the sequence would bypass my and the bike.
Someone told me if you have a centerstand, to just use your foot and lower it back and forth while stopped at the light and when I did so, it seemed to help, or maybe it was just the power of positive thinking. |
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06-18-2008, 8:31 PM
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#24 | | ... Get A Good Lawyer ! Join Date: Dec 20 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Bike(s): Honda '07 CBR1100XX Super Blackbird Age: 44 Posts: 1,904
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Originally Posted by Venus97 or maybe it was just the power of positive thinking.  | ...................... Use the force, Luke
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06-27-2008, 1:26 AM
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