Fuel ! .... How Much Is It Around The World ?

AntXXG

Very odd in my manual it says running anything less than 90 Octane will damage the engine, makes me think that in europe the compression ratio is either higher or the ignition is advanced more in the ECU. Our fuel choices are 95 or 98...in France you can get lower ratings but I've not seen below 90.

TigreST

I'll double check my on bike owners manual for my 1998 XX, but I'm sure I read 86 octane as a minimum. As noted in one of the earlier replys. "not all country's read octane by the same means". Euro gasoline vendors (and Oz) tend to use RON (research octane number) I believe (?) as the advertised unit of octane rating. In the U.S. and Canada PON (pump octane number) is what we purchase by. PON= RON+MON/2. MON is motor octane number. So we use an average of RON and MON to arrive at PON here in North America. A rule of thumb is that RON may be as much as eight to ten points higher then MON. So if your running your low 90 RON number your not that far off my PON number really. The diff between the testing to arrive at RON versus MON is that the MON number is the result of testing the fuel in a "motor under loaded" conditions, with a Knock Engine...or at conditions that attempt to mimic a motor that is actually doing work as you might find while out on the road. The RON is a similar test with a Knock Engine, but does not place as high a load on the motor so the knock threshold is higher. In a manner of speaking the diff is akin to being at cruise speed and hearing no ping or knock (this would give you a RON) and then jumping on the gas pedel to pass and hearing all the ping and knock as the motor is loaded up to do more work with a low octane fuel. There is more to it then that..but it may help you related to the diff between the two numbers in a sense. At the refinery we blend fuel to octane spec's based on Knock Engine testing. The Knock Engines have adjustable compression ratio's and timing adjustments that enable both RON and MON numbers to be arrived at.

Tony

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CanadianBird

87 Octane was $1.21 minus 3.5 cents at Chevron yesterday afternoon. It's a rollercoaster b/c they play with the price weekly. On Thursday I paid $1.11 per litre of 87 Octane. I expect to pay $1.50 or so during the summer. In '02 when I bought my Bird I paid 87 cents per 87 Octane. If you live outside the Metro Vancouver area it's 10 cents less. We also pre-pay at the pumps as a result of server incidents with "gas and dash". One kid was killed trying to chase a thief. Too many thiefs and "crack heads" in Vancouver these days.

AntXXG

Yes 95 RON is approx 87MON so my manual 90 RON would be approx 82 MON..must be getting my MON's & RON's confused

Nutter67

Last week I payed $1.52 per litre for BP Ultimate. 2 hours later, that price had gone up to $1.67 per litre. The price is due to go up again and again and again over the next few weeks.

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Nutter67

What to do when petrol prices get too high.

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xDayan

$3.74/gallon :'( Its killing me it cost almost 90 bucks to fill my truck $16 to fill my vtr and who knows with the xx.

IrishXX

Ireland weighs in at

€1.20/litre or €4.63/US Gallon ($1.91/litre or $7.38/US Gallon)

With my commute (Serious heavy filtering, no freeways/motorways and about 50 traffic lights over a 10 mile run - Yes driving in dublin is an experience to be had) I'm hitting reserve after 120miles (200kms) and it costs me €20 ($32) to fill her up!!

But, if i wanted fuel economy i would have bought a Honda 50!

TimmoNZ

Petrol is free for all NZ citizens !

how good is that.

DragonXX

You forgot to add the

Update for Qld, Australia : I just paid $1.52 a Litre for PULP

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tonyz

shelburne ontario, 1.20 reg litre this morning.
I've always run premium(91octane) any problems with running reg(87octane)?
thanks
tony

CanadianBird

You don't need premium. 87 Octane will do. Today, $126.9 per litre and expect $150 by summer time. In '02 when I bought the Bird, it was .86 a litre. Get used to it.

Aurora

Premium unleaded is free for me.

$0.00 per gallon

I just siphon it out of my neighbors Corvette late at night.

Mighty

Compression isn't high enough in our engine to require Higher octane. High octane in a lower copression engine will produce less power and not burn as clean. I have seen dyno runs and engines that didn't need the higher comp. lost HP when feed high octane fuel. People think that higher octane means more power; wrong, it simply is more stable under compression.

Sandsquidxx

Just filled up in San Francisco 87octane at $3.95gal.

SilverBrd

$3.29 a gallon on average around here now.

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Sandsquidxx

Haven't seen that price since last year...I ride about 450miles a week on my bird, with maintenance, fuel and insurance its almost cheaper to ride BART into the city. Then my commute would'nt be so much fun

MedleyXX

$3.40 new mexico

ravi

obviously a topic close to all our hearts... this thread's probably generated more responses than any other in a fairly short period of time...
the equivalent of $ 1.25/lt for 87 oct and $ 1.50/lt for the good stuff here in Mumbai, India.

DragonXX

Yeah ! ............. I'll bump this thread up every 3 months and see what we are all paying for fuel then ?

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DreDaDevil

$3.31 a gallon up here in NJ. They refine it here though. we need to develop those fuel cells and fast. We must stop our dependency upon foreign oil. Also why dont they just come forward in that u tube video and just say that they are not the smartest bulbs in the chandelier. Then we could get some where.

DragonXX

Fuel Cells ???
What we need is accelerated development of Dilithium Crystals or a Flux Capacitor

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SilverXXRider

I am in New York about 70 miles north of the Big City (NYC) and premium 93 octane is running around $3.90 a gallon. Damn taxes are killing us . I work close to the NY/NJ border and pop over to get gas in New Jersey it is 30 to 40 cents cheaper a gallon due to less taxes .

SilverBrd

May 1st 2008.....Fuel is up to 3.43 a gallon for regualr unleaded. I believe it's gone up almost 25 cents a gallon since I first posted in March. I also spent $17.40 filling up my Bird the other day.....Anybody want a 2007 Dodge Ram Quad Cab with 8k on it? I dont drive it much anymore....

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jjmcjames

$3.42 for regular today in Middle Tennessee. Went to the Kroger and got 10 cents off-posted price of 3.52. Filled up my car and got 3 bags of groceries-120.00!!!