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Fuel ! .... How Much Is It Around The World ?
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03-12-2008, 10:58 AM
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#31 | Join Date: Oct 28 2007 Location: Pleasanton Ca Bike(s): Silver 2002 CBR 1100xx Age: 43 Posts: 61
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Originally Posted by hedgehog Last I saw was $3.39 a gallon in Wisconsin USA. Unfortunately my GMC is a diesel and that is at $3.99 a gal. I am really looking forward for the snow and ice to be gone!!
Sandsquidxx, I have noticed a mileage and slight power increase in mid grade fuel over regular and premium unleaded. But that was in my 50cc scooter! |  So, should I trade my BB for a scooter?  NOT I average 33mpg, and thats 90% freeway commute. With gas prices getting so high its a wash when it comes to ridding the BART train. Thats Bay Area Rapid Transit for all you non SF bay area riders, but then my commute goes from 40min to 1.5hours each way  Then the fun factor drops to zero....
Now about the regular fuel I run, not sure yet. But from what some of you riders say, I may just go back to premium at $4.20gal.
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03-12-2008, 6:18 PM
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#32 | | ... Get A Good Lawyer ! Join Date: Dec 19 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Bike(s): Honda '07 CBR1100XX Super Blackbird Age: 44 Posts: 1,690
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Originally Posted by Sandsquidxx  So, should I trade my BB for a scooter?  NOT I average 33mpg, and thats 90% freeway commute. With gas prices getting so high its a wash when it comes to ridding the BART train. Thats Bay Area Rapid Transit for all you non SF bay area riders, but then my commute goes from 40min to 1.5hours each way  Then the fun factor drops to zero....
Now about the regular fuel I run, not sure yet. But from what some of you riders say, I may just go back to premium at $4.20gal. |  Public transport is just no fun and I'd rather put in the overtime at work ... cause I don't get paid sittin' on a train.
It's also the quality of life. I get more time with my family.
On train it is 4 hours a day wasted .... on the bike it's 1 hr 40 mins of grinning
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03-12-2008, 6:31 PM
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#33 | Join Date: Feb 23 2008 Location: Queensland Australia Bike(s): 2002 Blackbird, 2004 Goldwing & '84 Yam RZ350R Age: 59 Posts: 12
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Talk about getting screwed. Having a quick bite to eat at a servo on my way to Willobank Drags yesterday afternoon and watched the pleasantly plump console operator change the unleaded fuel price from 125.9c/litre to a rip off 138.9c/litre with a quick flick of a few number boards. How easy it seems to make a quick buck at out expense. But then the weekend is coming up but the powers to be reckon that there is no price fixing by the oil companies.
Yeah right - I believe in the easter bunny too!
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03-12-2008, 9:04 PM
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#34 | | ... Get A Good Lawyer ! Join Date: Dec 19 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Bike(s): Honda '07 CBR1100XX Super Blackbird Age: 44 Posts: 1,690
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On the really really rare occasions where the price of crude has gone down, the oil companies took weeks to pass on the savings. But when crude goes up, the pump price goes up within the space of a couple of minutes !!!!
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03-12-2008, 9:54 PM
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#35 | | Got any blacker??? Join Date: Jan 09 2008 Location: Eagle Heights, QLD, Australia Bike(s): 03 XX Black Age: 35 Posts: 89
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The Below rant is to do with fuel in Australia in Australian dollars.....
What really pisses me off is that crude is traded in US$ and although it has gone up in US$, it has not gone up that much in AU$ (on account of the strengthening australian dollar). So the effect in AU$ at the pump should not be as much as it has been. That is even though the US$ buys less oil, the AU$ buys more US$, hence evening out the equation somewhat.
On top of that (in round figures, I dont have the time to do all of the research) when fuel was 0.70/l it had about $0.40/l of tax on it (as a flat rate, not a percentage) so the cost of refined fuel was about $0.30/l, with fuel at $1.50, it still has about $0.40 (not factering GST) so the price of refined fuel is $1.10. So fuel has really gone up by about 270%  even though crude oil has really gone up about 25% (in australian dollars).
Can anybody explain this to me?
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03-13-2008, 1:52 AM
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#36 | | Maxx Join Date: Jul 25 2007 Location: Galveston, Texas Bike(s): 2000 Titanium Super Blackbird Yoshimura Exhaust Posts: 276
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Can anybody explain this to me?
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03-13-2008, 2:01 AM
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#37 | | Got any blacker??? Join Date: Jan 09 2008 Location: Eagle Heights, QLD, Australia Bike(s): 03 XX Black Age: 35 Posts: 89
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Ahhhh....
When they say that we 'feel it in the hip pocket' I kinda think it is right between both hip pockets....
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03-13-2008, 2:07 AM
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#38 | | Maxx Join Date: Jul 25 2007 Location: Galveston, Texas Bike(s): 2000 Titanium Super Blackbird Yoshimura Exhaust Posts: 276
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03-13-2008, 6:20 AM
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#39 | Join Date: Oct 18 2006 Location: St Louis Mo. Bike(s): CBR11xx03 Age: 53 Posts: 123
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It just jumped about 15 cents since the last time I bought gas.
Jeeeeeez.... I remember paying 22 cents per gallon!
Of course, I am an old fart.
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03-13-2008, 6:37 AM
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#40 | | ... Get A Good Lawyer ! Join Date: Dec 19 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Bike(s): Honda '07 CBR1100XX Super Blackbird Age: 44 Posts: 1,690
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Originally Posted by xxxron It just jumped about 15 cents since the last time I bought gas.
Jeeeeeez.... I remember paying 22 cents per gallon!
Of course, I am an old fart. | 22 cents a gallon !!!!!!!!!!! .................. Did they have electricity then
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03-13-2008, 6:46 AM
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#41 | Join Date: Mar 02 2008 Location: Farnham UK Bike(s): 2001 Blue Blackbird Posts: 137
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It's funny reading all the replies from US & Aussie members of the forum and how you're being ripped of, I know the distances are greater etc but consider this if I goto work (35 miles by train) it costs me USD 10.00 to park at the station which is 5 miles away, then its USD 45.00 for the train fare...so in a month it would cost me about USD 1000.00 to use public transport. Therefore we put up with the USD 20.00 it costs me in fuel (about 1.8 gallons)...and Shell / BP made 10's of billions profit last year...arrrgghhhhh..who's laughing they are at us in Europe
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03-13-2008, 7:02 AM
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#42 | Join Date: Mar 02 2008 Location: Farnham UK Bike(s): 2001 Blue Blackbird Posts: 137
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Originally Posted by Sandsquidxx  So, should I trade my BB for a scooter?  NOT I average 33mpg, and thats 90% freeway commute. With gas prices getting so high its a wash when it comes to ridding the BART train. Thats Bay Area Rapid Transit for all you non SF bay area riders, but then my commute goes from 40min to 1.5hours each way  Then the fun factor drops to zero....
Now about the regular fuel I run, not sure yet. But from what some of you riders say, I may just go back to premium at $4.20gal. | Blimey, 33mpg (is that an imperial gallon?) I've never averaged under 38mpg even when cruising at 100+ in europe with the bird, funnily enough though I managed 25 mpg on my VTR1000 once ran out of fuel just as I got to the garage...
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03-13-2008, 7:16 AM
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#43 | Join Date: Feb 19 2008 Location: PA Bike(s): Black Hell 99 XX, 2000 CBR 929 RR & 1979 RD400F Age: 51 Posts: 29
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$3.25 for Premium... |
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03-13-2008, 7:52 AM
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#44 | Join Date: Mar 27 2007 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Bike(s): 2002 CBR 1100XX dual CF devil pipes. 1982 XL500R Age: 26 Posts: 176
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Fuel here just jumped a couple days ago from US$3.39 to US$3.69/gal for premium. If prices break $4.00/gal by October (I'm betting they will), then prices will have more than doubled in 2 years. Some thing just doesn't seem right about that
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03-13-2008, 8:13 AM
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#45 | Join Date: Mar 02 2008 Location: Farnham UK Bike(s): 2001 Blue Blackbird Posts: 137
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Originally Posted by Sandsquidxx  So, should I trade my BB for a scooter?  NOT I average 33mpg, and thats 90% freeway commute. With gas prices getting so high its a wash when it comes to ridding the BART train. Thats Bay Area Rapid Transit for all you non SF bay area riders, but then my commute goes from 40min to 1.5hours each way  Then the fun factor drops to zero....
Now about the regular fuel I run, not sure yet. But from what some of you riders say, I may just go back to premium at $4.20gal. | Quote:
Originally Posted by 1100xxben Fuel here just jumped a couple days ago from US$3.39 to US$3.69/gal for premium. If prices break $4.00/gal by October (I'm betting they will), then prices will have more than doubled in 2 years. Some thing just doesn't seem right about that  | Doubled in 2 years, and you're still less than half the price...Still we'll be riding electric bikes in 30 years time!!
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03-13-2008, 8:16 AM
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#46 | Join Date: Aug 04 2007 Location: Sydney Bike(s): Soon to be 06 blackbird - black Posts: 25
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95 octane Caltex, Sydney today AUD$1.51 per litre  not happy...
Easter holiday next week so they will bump it up another 10c I bet, price gouging turds.
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03-13-2008, 8:21 AM
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#47 | | ... Get A Good Lawyer ! Join Date: Dec 19 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Bike(s): Honda '07 CBR1100XX Super Blackbird Age: 44 Posts: 1,690
| " .... Doubled in 2 years, and you're still less than half the price...Still we'll be riding electric bikes in 30 years time!! "
Then no one will give a rats what happens in the middle east !!
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03-13-2008, 9:44 AM
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#48 | Join Date: Feb 26 2008 Location: Northeast Ohio Bike(s): 2001 CBR1100XX (The Red Year) Age: 24 Posts: 401
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reg runs anywhere from 3.19 to 3.39 for regular, and 3.49 to 3.69 for premium per gallon here in northeast ohio right now...
my caddi cannot run on anything less than midgrade (pings like a box of empty bottles) and it runs best on premium...
do the birds require premium?
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03-13-2008, 10:12 AM
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#49 | Join Date: Oct 28 2007 Location: Pleasanton Ca Bike(s): Silver 2002 CBR 1100xx Age: 43 Posts: 61
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Originally Posted by AntXXG It's funny reading all the replies from US & Aussie members of the forum and how you're being ripped of, I know the distances are greater etc but consider this if I goto work (35 miles by train) it costs me USD 10.00 to park at the station which is 5 miles away, then its USD 45.00 for the train fare...so in a month it would cost me about USD 1000.00 to use public transport. Therefore we put up with the USD 20.00 it costs me in fuel (about 1.8 gallons)...and Shell / BP made 10's of billions profit last year...arrrgghhhhh..who's laughing they are at us in Europe | It looks like AntXXG has got us all beat.  The train for me to San Francisco is only USD 10.50 round trip and USD 1.0 to park in the lot.
As for my fuel consumption, I believe its the additives they put in the fuel that causes the problems here in California  Ridding the BB just saves me commute time now that fuel has gone up so much. Here in California we can lane split   andthe San Francisco Bay Bridge $4.00 toll is free during commute hours. When traffic is backed up for two hours by car it only takes me 10min to cross the bridge..... |
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03-13-2008, 1:44 PM
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#50 | Join Date: Jun 03 2007 Location: Canada Bike(s): 98 CBRxx Posts: 176
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Tuesday afternoon my wife askes, "You going to fill your truck up? ...gas is going up tomorrow?" Normally I miss the cheap gas and get stuck paying the higher price. Well on Tuesday I managed to fill for $0.98 a liter for regular (86 octane). By Tuesday evening the price jumped to $1.10 a liter for regular. It's common around here for the price to jump all over the place. Holiday and long weeked price gouging seems to be the norm. I've got the Factory Pro 4 degree ignition advancer to install. Now I'm not so sure that's a good idea as it will also limit my fuel octane requirements to better fuel grades with the resulting higher prices. Hmm...what to do? Install it anyway of course. Minium octane via the manual for my 1998 XX is 86 pump octane. I ran 86, 87, 89 octane last Sept in the Smokies and did not notice any ill effects. Running higher octane then required (putting flame suit on here as I type) is a waste of money if the engine does not require said octane. Octane chat is always a good way to lose friends...or gain enemies.
Tony
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Last edited by TigreST : 03-13-2008 at 1:51 PM.
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03-13-2008, 1:55 PM
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#51 | Join Date: Jan 28 2007 Location: New Zealand - Coromandel Harbour Bike(s): Honda Blackbird Age: 60 Posts: 132
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Originally Posted by TigreST Octane chat is always a good way to lose friends...or gain enemies.
Tony | Got to agree with you on the 'bird Tony. I've always run mine on 91 octane without any bother and continue to do so. The only time I use 96 is if 91 isn't available. Whether it affects horsepower is debatable but largely irrelevant for road use anyway.
Cheers,
Geoff
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03-13-2008, 2:27 PM
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#52 | Join Date: Oct 30 2006 Location: Norway Bike(s): 1997 Blackbird Posts: 323
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About 7,75 USD per gallon her in Norway. Or 2 USD per litre..
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03-13-2008, 2:32 PM
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#53 | Join Date: Nov 29 2006 Location: Sweden Bike(s): Busa -08, the CBR 1100 XX -97 is now SOLD Posts: 155
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Originally Posted by Leftlaner About 7,75 USD per gallon her in Norway. Or 2 USD per litre..  | Same price in Sweden when we import from Norway, and don't need to invest in oil-riggs and labour |
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03-13-2008, 6:27 PM
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#54 | | ... Get A Good Lawyer ! Join Date: Dec 19 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Bike(s): Honda '07 CBR1100XX Super Blackbird Age: 44 Posts: 1,690
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Originally Posted by magley64 reg runs anywhere from 3.19 to 3.39 for regular, and 3.49 to 3.69 for premium per gallon here in northeast ohio right now...
my caddi cannot run on anything less than midgrade (pings like a box of empty bottles) and it runs best on premium...
do the birds require premium? | No they don't require premium.
But I run mine on 98 RON BP Ultimate exclusively.
Found engine runs smoother, faster and longer.
I get about 20 klms extra out of a tank of PULP.
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