dracki

I bought a wrecked statutory write off 07 Blackbird from the auctions the other day & i thought i would make it our,yes our project track bike(well its really mine cause i'm funding it),so i'de like to put alittle bit of everyones 2cents worth into it,wether you've already built a modified bird or you've just bought your first one & are still shaking every time you start her up,give me your opinions as to what to do to it,no matter how crazy but just remember its a track bike & won't be ridden on road as it can't be registered,so farkles are out & Lois i'm not hanging those school girl thingys off the bar ends or painting it pink & Shewie, hello

so here is my list of possible mods;
1,Turbo with a straight out exhaust just past the ankle.
2,i already have an 06 blade rear swing arm so thats stays
3,opinions on forks,The Duck & Graham your input on the handling on yours so-far
4,engine capacity??????????,my guess is as good as yours
5,naked or with fairing?????????
6,wheels?????
7,



the rst is up to you so let me know,also i'm on a budget but it depends how long its gonna take,if we want it running in 3 months then the budget is small,get my drift

i'll be posting piks here this weekend

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shewie

Instead of turbo, how about a supercharger ala Duck's bike? Quicker throttle response lower down and you don't have to mod the header.

Surprised at the lack of smart-assed, shewie answer?

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CanadianBird

Does that mean a gear indicator is out? Great project to bad you, the Duck and Graham can't all get together in the same garage and work as a hands on team. With an unlimited budget, lol.

TheDuck

Hope you have larger tracks out there than we do in the UK, whilst a Bird on the track is fun it does have size and weight against it. Power is certainly not what I would be looking for first.
I like my Kwak forks for several reasons
You can adjust them to how you want/need them to be, my two Birds handle quite differently.
You have a little excess length for lifting/lowering in the yokes so if your legs are long enough you can lift the rear even higher (trying 7mm spacer along with 7mm extra shock length currently!) slightly compensated for at the front and there are then no ground clearance problems.
No doubt the SP1 forks would do the same job but they are now very expensive and like rocking horse sh.t in the UK.
Any brakes can be made to fit easily the 12R forks (I'm going to change the fork bottoms to radial mount later this year, bits already in the garage)

So I would go for suspension and brakes first ............... and then of course weight saving. I am told there is a font of knowledge on that subject in this thread http://www.cbrxx.com/general-cbr-xx-...ight-bird.html

dracki

i don't want to spend a couple grand to get 200 Hp when i can spend $500 & get 300Hp.


you've dissapointed me Shewie,i was looking forward to a smart assed answer,so give it to me baby

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dracki

yes i'm sorry Cbird,its out,i'm not a fan of knowing what gear its in,i go by the revs & feel,just like they say at Ducati"there is no redline on a Ducati, you shift by feel"

who knows,i might get lucky & win the Oz lotto this Tuesday($90MillionAUD) & i might see how Graham's bike is coming along in person on a Desmossidici & leave it with him,then cruise over to the Ducks place on a 1198R & leave it with him,then fly over to Canada & see Shewie on a scooter,& yep you geussed it,leave that with him too

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dracki

I am a short ass,so i'll be lowering the front by about 10mm from stock hight,if you know what i meen,i'll be trying the shims under the rear shock on my road bird this weekend as i'm throwing on a set of racetech springs on front & rear,i went past the wreckers today & gave him a list of parts,ie; ZX12 forks & rims & disks & brakes or 04/07 fireblade forks & rims etc etc, so i'll see what prices he comes up with

he has a set of ZX12 rims in stock & i felt the wieght of them,they are light for what they are,would the rear ZX12 rim fit on they blade swingarm, he said just need to change the bearings,& maybe add alittle spacer or take some off,so i'll drop the swing arm off to him & let him play around with it

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TheDuck

you can get a lot more than 200, I kept it well down to keep it 'sensible' on the road. My motor is 'future proofed' so if I want more it will be a simple swap over of units
That said, IMHO forced induction is not the way to go if the bike is to go on circuits, the strip is a different matter.

dracki

i hear ya,i was thinking of both though,the rare trip to the drags,unless i like it that much,but mostly the race tracks around the east coast & i was thinking around 220HP for the race track & try get close to 300HP for the drags

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TheDuck

anything can be made to fit but if I remember correctly (and bear in mind that this was with a BB swing arm) there is a large difference in off sets of the sprocket and brake disc. So if you line up the sprocket the disc is out and visa versa.

dracki

Cheers Duff man,oops,i meen Duck man

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Poundstretcher

Sounds like a fast machine what color is it

dracki

it will be BLACK

don't go there

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deadman

Knobby tyres, it will give you traction, Two wheels, a motor, brakes, rip every thing else off it, you dont need lights for a track bike,
Wide handle bars, you need to steer this beast, and a steel slipper for your left boot, Go and have a look at the gear speedway riders use,
You cant go wrong,

And I will come up there and show you how to ride it,:evilau gh:

Cheers,
Brian,

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CanadianBird

$90,000,000 OMG, OMG, fax me a ticket, I'll split it with you. And to think I get horney over a pissy arsed $15 mill loto in Canada. Do people actually win that much?? OMG, OMG.

shewie

Okay, buddy, I'll send you the $500 to get me 300hp.

You forgot to list a "someone to ride it for me 'cause I'm only used to the slow-assed black version" option.

Ninety million and you're going to give me a scooter? You cheap ***tard.

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Partsguy

Invest in suspension for a road track bike.The turbo would probably be annoying on the track with all the variance in rpm,wouldn't want it to spool up and spit me through the next turn instead of into it.I'd go the usual headwork route,delink the brakes (tha't over 5lbs right there).Good luck.

And I'd also like to know how to get 300hp for $500.

Hillbilly4eva

Me too, hell I'll take 200 hp for $500...

thechamp55

Keep the fairings, do an Erion Race rep paint scheme.

As for the motor Id say a big bore kit and cams and then nitrous for the strip. Addmittedly Ive never done either to a bike though.

Steeper gearing I dont think anyones mentioned that.

And most importantly LOSE SOME WEIGHT

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dracki

did i just flush the toilet

YOUR gonna show me how to WHAT,Brian Brian Brian,just cause you been to Philip Island, doesn't meen your a Rossi or Pedrossa,you may be a stoner but i'm not talking of the rider

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dracki

ours is pocket change compared to the yanky & Euro lotto's,talking half a Billion in those ones but ours is tax free on winnings

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dracki

just for you my fury friend,the Turbo's cost $469.ooAUD for a 16g Turbo modified to give the series 1,2,3,4 & 5 Mtsubishy's Evo's upto 450Hp
i'm guessing it'll give me exactly what i want,i'm gonna be putting a kit together which would include the Turbo, a intercooler & the exhaust bend & reduced to suit the standard size of after market exhaust slip ons, plus all link pipes to & from the intercooler & Airbox,plus all oil hoses & what ever else it may need as i build mine, & hopefully be able to sell the kit for about $3500AUD & for a little extra a gasket to de-comp the motor & a custom airbox,hopefully keep that kit as cheep as $4k


a scooter is all your worth with all your bitch'n & crap i gotta put up with from you & Lois

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dracki

i was gonna get you to ride it,BUT i don't think you'de be able to handle a bad assed BLACK track bird

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dracki

brakes will be de-linked,a lot of un-nessesary crap will be tossed too,anything that doesn't need to be there won't be.
head will be ported,Kibblewhite springs are sitting on the shelf,a set of cams was sent to Web cams in the states last monday,should be back in about 3 weeks, a set of EV8 stainless one piece Ferrea valves are on the shelf ready for install,4 je pistons are here also ready for the bored out block,just picked up a rear ZX12 wheel from the wrecker & am trying to retro fit it to the Blade swingarm,those wheels are very lite wieght for what they are

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Nutter67

In regards to nitrous, is there a system that would allow incrementally adjusted amounts of nitrous dependant on the throttle position? For example, you could start a small spray of nitrous when the throttle reaches 50% open. As the throttle opens more, then a larger amount of nitrous would then be injected, going all the way through to a maximum shot of nitrous when the throttle opens to 100%.

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dracki

i'll try put a kit together without all the intercooler & fiddly bits BUT if you run more than 5 pounds your on your own,this kit will suite the standard motor with the standard head gasket(ie;no need to decompress),that will include the Header,Turbo,Exhaust bend & the pipe from the Turbo to the air box & the inlet with filter to the Turbo cold end,i'll try keep that one under $2500AUD,this all depends on what things cost me to buy & while i'm setting this bike up

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dracki

you gotta post a pik of the Erion bike for me Champ,havn't seen one yet

you calling me FAT
i'm 90kg's

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dracki

good idea
thats for the strip

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deadman

You didnt say what sort of track bike, Drackie. Be more specific.

I rode speedway when I was younger.

I dont ride P/I. Not my cup of tea.

Brian.

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thechamp55

I meant cut wieght from the bike, not yourself, and the closest thing Ive ever heard of to what Nutter is talking about is called a 'fogger' kit.

Youve never seen the Erion 929RR? Maybe it was an American thing?

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