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Old 04-09-2009, 12:23 AM   #1
 
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Cruise Control

Hey everybody I just Installed electric cruise on my Blackbird and I have to tell you.....IT IS AWESOME!!!

I have always wanted cruise on my bike. I have developed some wrist issues due to working construaction (numb wrists). I am really stoked to be able to rest my right hand on the hwy!

The cruise system is made by audiovox. It's designed for cars, but is perfectly functional on motorcycles. I can't take full credit for the install as I found a lot of great resources form other chaps on the www. specifically :

AUDIOVOX CCS-100 ON A CBR1100XX


I hit one snag though. I had everything installed and wired and the cruise wouldn't engage. Turns out the servo needs to see a ground path through the brake light circuit. This insures that the cruise will disengage even if the tail light bulb is burned out.....well, turns out that LED tailights are to high resistance. This tricks the servo into thinking the brake circuit is open. the fix was found here:

Audiovox Cruise Control Install

Then I was off and running. The big bird holds the speedo right on.

I just bought the bike a couple weeks ago. This was one of the things I wanted to do right away. She's my new toy and it's getting a lot of attention, more than my wife.

The other mods are:

New Dunlop roadsmarts (excellent first impression)
6mm shim
PC3 Yosh full system map
motek tail
30A relay acc power for GPS, Radar, Tank bag cig splitter. etc...
Ram mount brackets
frame plugs
Oil, filter, brake and clutch fluid change (9000 miles)

I'm getting a lot closer to being tour ready.

http://zacharywhitson.smugmug.com/ph...3_AE9Ze-XL.jpg
The switch is a little cheesy so I radioshacked this momentary button to use for the "set" button. I don't need the other switches.
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here's my custom fab ram mounts
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Enjoy you're bikes guy summers coming on!
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Old 04-09-2009, 1:07 AM   #2
 
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Looks impressive. How's the wallet?
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Old 04-09-2009, 8:17 AM   #3
 
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Well done, I guess. What's that wire running across? It it isn't "plug and play" it won't work for me. No splicing for me. I think the throttle meister is the prefered choice for "cruize control". However, I applaud all shady lane mechanics. Cheers
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Old 04-09-2009, 8:45 AM   #4
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Looks good
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Old 04-09-2009, 8:47 AM   #5
 
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The wiring is actually pretty simple. The only wires I had to tap into were

Brake light
one side of and ignition coil
Ignition switched power. (tail light)

use water tight heat shirink/glue connectors (the cheap butt connectors in the picture are temps to test)

The wallet's ok, about $600.00 (exhaust/PC3 came with the bike) on the tab so far. Motorcycling is an investment right?
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Old 04-09-2009, 1:18 PM   #6
 
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Looks great, can't find a seller in the UK - Google came back with USA based retailers - but, Amazon have them at just about $90, maybe I'll treat myself...................
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I like the subtle little "set" button idea, does it work OK once you have the throttle at the desired speed - I'm in favour of dumping the up / down button supplied with the kit as I think it'd be a fiddle with gloves on.
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Old 04-09-2009, 1:55 PM   #8
 
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Well, so far the set button works well. The switch barely clears the handlebar, that's why I put it as far left as possable. It's just a tad bit difficult to reach with your thumb while holding the trottle steady but that's a minor challange. Much easier than the big supplied switch,and not nearly as combursome as twisting a throttlemeister with one hand. Also I ran the switched on/off to ignition voltage so its always on. But if you could use any standard on of switch and put it in an obscure location if you wheren't comfortable with this. i don't think I'm likely to bump the set button accidently though so it's not a concern to me.
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Old 04-09-2009, 2:06 PM   #9
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Awesome!
Thanks for your post and the link.
I've been wanting to do this exact setup since last year, but was debating whether to go instead with the rather pricey custom-made bike kit out of Australia.
Now that I see how straightforward this is, I think I'll save myself the extra $450!
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The wiring is actually pretty simple. The only wires I had to tap into were

Brake light
one side of and ignition coil
Ignition switched power. (tail light)
I like that setup. Any tips on installing the alternative switch? I take it you've wired the on/off wires closed (do you recall Audiovox colors?) to make your cruise always on, and ignored the acceleration wires. Beyond the Radio Shack's part #, might you have any more tips about opening the bike's switch housing?

Again, a fine looking setup. Great work.



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Old 04-09-2009, 2:28 PM   #11
 
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I should probably note that the under-tank picture was taken during my initial test set-up. The servo (main big black can-like part) didn't quite clear the fuel pump here, so, I had to move it two holes towards the engine and tuck it down just slightly. it fits fine now. I like having my tail section empty.

The switch housing is pretty straight forward. I didn't actually remove it because I didn't want to undo the throttle cables. Tips: don't get to far left with your hole or there's a little shoulder of plastic inside the switch that interferes with the cruise set button lock nut. I had to grind it down slightly with a drill bit. FYI just 2 phillips screws from the bottom is all that holds the 2 halves of the stock switch together. easy.

I threw out the packaging of the momentary switch I used from radio shack. So no part# (sorry) but I bought this same switch several years ago and they still had the same one so you shouldn't have to much trouble tracking one down.
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My thanks. I'll find the part, and get handle on the colors, I'm sure.


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Old 04-09-2009, 5:54 PM   #13
 
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.....I take it you've wired the on/off wires closed (do you recall Audiovox colors?) to make your cruise always on, and ignored the acceleration wires.


The colors are:

Brown: +12v Ign
Red: Switched +12v (this I wired to Ign also)
Purple: Brake light
Black: Ground
Green: Set/decel
Yellow: resume/accel
Blue: Tach/coil (on the blackbird you want the NON black wire. (blue&Yel)

The instructions are pretty clear on these
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Seems like there's no UK supplier of these kits and nothing as close on price so I've ended up buying one from a USA based ebay seller - gonna cost me nearly as much in shipping & taxes as the kit cost hope that when it arrives it's as easy to fit as you made it look!!!
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Well done! Thanks for the write-up and pics. Well done!
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I had one of these on my '98: HONDA :: Manufacturers :: Motorcycle Cruise Controls - ATV, 4 Wheelers and Quad Bike Accessory & Parts

Worked a treat & was fairly easy to install. Price is up by 50% over the last 8 years though...
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I had one of these on my '98: HONDA :: Manufacturers :: Motorcycle Cruise Controls - ATV, 4 Wheelers and Quad Bike Accessory & Parts

Worked a treat & was fairly easy to install. Price is up by 50% over the last 8 years though...

I followed the link, nearly passed out when I saw the price but, read the article anyway. Apart from those guys pushing their kit as being the best of the best I agree with the logic - it makes more sense to fit a proper 'Bird kit than adapt a car one but, at 7 times the price plus shipping & taxes I'll try the Audiovox one first.
If it turns out to be as bad as the Aussie guys say I won't have to worry - I'll have crashed and burned because I didn't fit their kit in the first place
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The switch housing is pretty straight forward. I didn't actually remove it because I didn't want to undo the throttle cables. Tips: don't get to far left with your hole or there's a little shoulder of plastic inside the switch that interferes with the cruise set button lock nut. I had to grind it down slightly with a drill bit. FYI just 2 phillips screws from the bottom is all that holds the 2 halves of the stock switch together. easy.

I threw out the packaging of the momentary switch I used from radio shack. So no part# (sorry) but I bought this same switch several years ago and they still had the same one so you shouldn't have to much trouble tracking one down.

Even though I only ordered the kit from the USA last night I've been thinking of how to utilise one of the Honda switches to switch the cruise on / off and have hit on a cunning plan.
I'm gonna use the flash / passing light!! Mine is of no real use as I have HID on both high / low beams so the "flash" doesn't really work because of the delay in the HID's warming up to their usable brightness by which time whoever I wanted to flash is long gone.
Not being an electrical genius it seems like the perfect answer to me, anyone got any thoughts about why it might not work?
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...a cunning plan.
I'm gonna use the flash...anyone got any thoughts about why it might not work?...
I'm no electrical genius either, so I am anxious to find out how this plays out.
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I'm no electrical genius either, so I am anxious to find out how this plays out.
Do you have a flash-to-pass button, sarge? I do not.
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