hardley ableson

Logoman · 09-13-2008, 5:53 PM

I see the red and black XX owners are busy patting each other on the back. Seeking allies is a sign of weakness and illustrates the inherent feelings of inadequacy common with riders of the slow red and black bikes.

Lois, thanks for the tongue-in-cheek invitation to Red Deer, but I'm uncomfortable dancing with men and having you dress up like a bear would only make it more awkward. BTW, remember to wrap my heavy duty reinforced silver XX PAIR block-off plates in red or black as a favor to UPS. Unless, of course, you want to wrap them in silver to get express shipping for the cost of ground.

Hey, FS, that silver '02 XX in your photo isn't. Maybe that's where your confusion stems. You've been racing Tit birds and those, of course, have low power levels more in line with your own. But, it IS the color closest to silver and, therefore, deserves the place you gave it in the center of the photo. The center, as we all know, is reserved for race winners, with subordinates to each side.

fasterspider · 09-13-2008, 7:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Logoman

Hey, FS, that silver '02 XX in your photo isn't.

The tag on the frame and the owner said 2000, not my mouth.

Red Rules.

PH005, my camera is a Konica/Minolta Z-5 that records MOV files which I then turn into MPEG videos so I can upload them to my Photobucket in short order.

Check out this video if the 1st one was not fast enough for you, I took close to 20 seconds off the time on this one.
Video of Saturday on the Snake - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

PH005 · 09-13-2008, 7:33 PM

Yes. Much better and sounds goooood. Dont want to sound critical, but, do you think looking at it that you may have made a couple of unnecessary down changes into bends that may have slowed you up ? Love the image of your head in the taco dial.

ps, Red Rules, Twisty canyons.

lois · 09-13-2008, 8:11 PM

Hey faster spider.......now thats what I'm talking about.

Love to see a good " canyon carving" video.

For those of you that were paying attention, did you notice the other 2 wrong clourd XX riders he smoked.

Faster spider went by them so fast they looked more like peddle bikes than motorbikes.......

FS, you and your RED XX rock buddy.....totaly rock......

The rest of you slow clourd losers may worship FS now......so kneel suckers

Lois

Logoman · 09-13-2008, 8:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fasterspider

The tag on the frame and the owner said 2000, not my mouth.

Exactly. It's a 2000 TITANIUM Blackbird, not a 2002 SILVER Blackbird. The ti XX is silver with some slow red and black paint mixed in to make it more beginner friendly.

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Originally Posted by PH005

Dont want to sound critical, but, do you think looking at it that you may have made a couple of unnecessary down changes into bends that may have slowed you up?

[Serious]
I noticed the same thing, not that I'm going to critique your riding. Also, better to ride below your skill level than buy the farm pretending a road is your personal racetrack. Going straight on corners hurts. Ask me how I know.[/Serious]

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Originally Posted by lois

For those of you that were paying attention, did you notice the other 2 wrong clourd XX riders he smoked.

Faster spider went by them so fast they looked more like peddle bikes than motorbikes.......

"I'll give you a hundred bucks each if you slam on your brakes when you see me in your rear view mirrors." Works every time.

We silver XX owners don't need to resort to cheap illusions. There were two of us in this same video clip and we passed FS twice - once going the same direction and once on the return leg. And we never even shifted out of 1st. Didn't see us? Well, of course not. Even a camera can't capture that kind of speed.

fasterspider · 09-13-2008, 8:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PH005

Yes. Much better and sounds goooood. Dont want to sound critical, but, do you think looking at it that you may have made a couple of unnecessary down changes into bends that may have slowed you up ? Love the image of your head in the taco dial.

ps, Red Rules, Twisty canyons.

Just having fun in the canyons I do not really need to be going so fast in.

fasterspider · 09-13-2008, 9:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Logoman

Exactly. It's a 2000 TITANIUM Blackbird, not a 2002 SILVER Blackbird. The ti XX is silver with some slow red and black paint mixed in to make it more beginner friendly.

My apologies for getting the name of the color wrong of the Bird that was only half as good looking as my Bird is.

lois · 09-13-2008, 9:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fasterspider

My apologies for getting the name of the color wrong of the Bird that was only half as good looking as my Bird is.

Don't listen to that little horn blower FS. If he spent a little less time studying pictures of bikes ( while playing with his Barbie set ....I mean Ken)and a little more time riding them, he may have broken the 55 MHP barrier on his tired out old stone boat that he calls an XX by now.

But instead he chooses to jump all over you because of one little minor slip up. Sad really, how far these slow clourd riders will sink just to try and make one of us faster riders look bad. Sure, sure, he may try to write some witty little explaination in a following post to try and cover his slow little skinny ass, but he has already slipped up and showed his hand.

But fear not FS. You are among friends with the RED Brigade....unlike other clours, we will not try to get you drunk so we can do bad things to you.

Lois> aka; red leader , friend to all , and all round super guy

Kneel suckers......

......kneel. - -

Logoman · 09-13-2008, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by fasterspider

My apologies for getting the name of the color wrong of the Bird that was only half as good looking as my Bird is.

It doesn't matter to me, but I'm sure it would matter to the Ti guys who don't need to add obscurity to their list of problems.

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Originally Posted by lois

Don't listen to that little horn blower FS. If he spent a little less time studying pictures of bikes ( while playing with his Barbie set ....I mean Ken)and a little more time riding them, he may have broken the 55 MHP barrier on his tired out old stone boat that he calls an XX by now.

But instead he chooses to jump all over you because of one little minor slip up. Sad really, how far these slow clourd riders will sink just to try and make one of us faster riders look bad. Sure, sure, he may try to write some witty little explaination in a following post to try and cover his slow little skinny ass, but he has already slipped up and showed his hand.

But fear not FS. You are among friends with the RED Brigade....unlike other clours, we will not try to get you drunk so we can do bad things to you.

Lois> aka; red leader , friend to all , and all round super guy.

Barbie it is. The new Sticky Barbie.

I HAVE broken the 55 mph barrier, but just barely since my silver XX is still on a scissor jack.

Slow little skinny ass...switch "slow" for "fast" and add "tight" and you describe my ass to a tea. Sorry, didn't mean to give you another sleepless night.

We silver XX riders would only try to get a red XX rider drunk to help them overcome their fear of speed. The problem with this is, the dose that alleviates fear and the dose that renders them unconscious is one and the same.

At the risk of being blunt, how does an all round guy ride a motorbike? Or do you just roll along side other riders while they keep you going with a stick?

Strek · 09-14-2008, 1:03 AM

Regardless of our conversation here on color and speed I find it interesting that there could be comments on riding and shifting from watching a video. There is a lot that you cannot determine from a video. Depth perception is different in the seat as a person is riding it then what it might appear on a vid. You also don't have a feeling for tire adhesion/grip and the real lean angle of a bike just from a vid. Until you have riden a stretch at speed more then a couple of times I would think that it would be hard to know yourself if you were selecting the right gear or if someone else in a video had the right gear selection. The other thing (and someone else mentioned this)is that FasterSpider is not on a closed track. He has to watch out for cages bicyclist animals and other motorcycles. Lets face it not everyone can be lucky enough to have a Blackbird no matter the color (slower or faster that you might also have to dodge if you were also lucky enough to have one of the faster of fastest colors) and I'm sure that there are some baggers that might be traveling that road at times that you would have to watch out for. I do have to say that I wish that we had some of those kind of roads around here.

PH005 · 09-14-2008, 1:17 AM

[quote=Strek;65194]Regardless of our conversation here on color and speed I find it interesting that there could be comments on riding and shifting from watching a video. There is a lot that you cannot determine from a video. Depth perception is different in the seat as a person is riding it then what it might appear on a vid. You also don't have a feeling for tire adhesion/grip and the real lean angle of a bike just from a vid. Until you have riden a stretch at speed more then a couple of times I would think that it would be hard to know yourself if you were selecting the right gear or if someone else in a video had the right gear selection.

Obviously comments coming from an inexperienced rider. Look through the corners my uneducated friend. It is very simple. But then being on the slowest of BB's I guess that it is all somewhat new to you. The topic of Speed !

lois · 09-14-2008, 7:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Strek

Regardless of our conversation here on color and speed I find it interesting that there could be comments on riding and shifting from watching a video. There is a lot that you cannot determine from a video. Depth perception is different in the seat as a person is riding it then what it might appear on a vid. You also don't have a feeling for tire adhesion/grip and the real lean angle of a bike just from a vid. Until you have riden a stretch at speed more then a couple of times I would think that it would be hard to know yourself if you were selecting the right gear or if someone else in a video had the right gear selection. The other thing (and someone else mentioned this)is that FasterSpider is not on a closed track. He has to watch out for cages bicyclist animals and other motorcycles. Lets face it not everyone can be lucky enough to have a Blackbird no matter the color (slower or faster that you might also have to dodge if you were also lucky enough to have one of the faster of fastest colors) and I'm sure that there are some baggers that might be traveling that road at times that you would have to watch out for. I do have to say that I wish that we had some of those kind of roads around here.

Ha, you were probably so scared you had to watch the video from between your fingures......then after, you either needed to lay on the floor until your brain quit spinning, or had to call one of those telephone "help" lines because you thought the speed had driven you insane.....

fasterspider · 09-14-2008, 9:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Strek

I do have to say that I wish that we had some of those kind of roads around here.

I am looking forward to the day when you and I ride together Strek, I will even slow down my Red Bird so you can keep up

Logoman · 09-14-2008, 2:49 PM

Continued hijack.

If you've ridden for awhile, you can tell a lot about speed, throttle control, lines, shift and braking points, etc. in a ride video.

Someone used to Florida riding could easily get in over their heads on a downhill run like FS posted. Speeds between 30 and 60 mph don't seem that fast, and they aren't, if the road is flat or you're going uphill. Downhill is a whole nother ballgame. And so is riding where there's a preponderance of law enforcement.

As I intimated to before, we've all seen plenty of Youtube videos with riders doing extremely squidly things on their bikes. I'm impressed by the overall skill of these things, but I don't generally respect it due to the venues. It's only a matter of time before luck runs out and people get hurt or worse.

Riding the fastest bike in the world won't help you if your skills aren't up to the task. Like FS, its always better to hone your riding skills on a red or black machine before stepping up to the superior power of a silver one.

fasterspider · 09-14-2008, 4:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Logoman

Someone used to Florida riding could easily get in over their heads on a downhill run like FS posted. Speeds between 30 and 60 mph don't seem that fast, and they aren't, if the road is flat or you're going uphill. Downhill is a whole nother ballgame. And so is riding where there's a preponderance of law enforcement.

Riding the fastest bike in the world won't help you if your skills aren't up to the task. Like FS, its always better to hone your riding skills on a red or black machine before stepping up to the superior power of a silver one.

I have to agree with you on a certain point you made about riding fast down hill, it takes more than balls, it takes skill which I do not feel that I have.
I am an intermediate rider that happens to have the biggest & nicest Sport Bike Honda ever made, a Red CBR1100XX Super Blackbird.

Today was spent riding my Red CBX which happens to be the fastest of the CBXs just because she is red.

Logoman · 09-14-2008, 5:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fasterspider

I have to agree with you on a certain point you made about riding fast down hill, it takes more than balls, it takes skill which I do not feel that I have.
I am an intermediate rider that happens to have the biggest & nicest Sport Bike Honda ever made, a Red CBR1100XX Super Blackbird.

Today was spent riding my Red CBX which happens to be the fastest of the CBXs just because she is red.

Except for the slow color and a seat so low it would give me blood clots, that's a nice bike. Too bad the red ones have a dummy cylinder at either end of the engine block. Oh well, like the red XX's, at least it looks impressive to the uninitiated and having only 4 real cylinders does keep the weight and repair bills down.

fasterspider · 09-14-2008, 5:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Logoman

that's a nice bike.

does keep repair bills down.

Thank you.

There are no repair bills on my CBX.

Logoman · 09-14-2008, 7:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fasterspider

Thank you.

There are no repair bills on my CBX.

'Course not. It's a Honda.

Just trying to keep the thread on track with the other crap. You understand.

lois · 09-14-2008, 8:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Logoman

'Course not. It's a Honda.

Just trying to keep the thread on track with the other crap. You understand.

Ah, such wise words coming from a cat in a hat....a lot of people don't realize just how wise a cat in a hat can truley be.

I mean really, think about it, on one hand you have a cat, and on the other hat.....I never realized how handy a portable red and white striped litter box could be....or how stylish.....and your giving one of the greatest California canyon riders of all time grief about his bikes?????

At any rate, I can assure the rest of you, beyond a shadow of a doubt , that even if our RED XX's only had one cylinder, the rest of you poser's would still be eating our dust up or down any hill in the country.

Don't listen to them FS, as their jealousy is eating them up inside.

Hey you wrong clour riders.....just do what bear says

Strek · 09-14-2008, 9:20 PM

[quote=PH005;65195]

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Originally Posted by Strek

Regardless of our conversation here on color and speed I find it interesting that there could be comments on riding and shifting from watching a video. There is a lot that you cannot determine from a video. Depth perception is different in the seat as a person is riding it then what it might appear on a vid. You also don't have a feeling for tire adhesion/grip and the real lean angle of a bike just from a vid. Until you have riden a stretch at speed more then a couple of times I would think that it would be hard to know yourself if you were selecting the right gear or if someone else in a video had the right gear selection.

Obviously comments coming from an inexperienced rider. Look through the corners my uneducated friend. It is very simple. But then being on the slowest of BB's I guess that it is all somewhat new to you. The topic of Speed !

PH005 That's right. I almost forgot... sis told me that on top of your skills in the bedroom that your are really the one and only retired Mick D. in disguise and that you are schooling Casey Stoner on your open weekends. When you start posting up videos like FasterSpider on similar terrian come back and post it up and then let all of the other arm chair quarterbacks comment on your riding skills. I won't because I don't believe its possible until you have been on that same stretch of road more then a few times yourself. Sis said that with all of your experience and skill that you only picked out a red bird to keep your speed down and sain enough for Casey to keep up. FasterSpiders redbird is most likely faster then yours since he has added that real nice pipe and power commander.
I've been riding for a while myself so I wouldn't consider myself inexperienced or unknowledgeable about shift points. I've done a few track days but just for fun. I did do them with a professional road racer at my side who was providing tips and coaching. Each time out my lap times improved. I have done a lot of drag racing in my earlier days both at the strip and street racing with money on the line. That was years ago. I have a lot of kids now so while I will ride my bike agressively I realize that I have a lot to live for and have nothing to prove. I would also readily admit that I don't have a lot of experience on roads like what FasterSpider has on his videos. I think bullet has posted up some similar videos from Greece. It's one of the reasons why I would like to get out to FasterSpiders neck of the woods to give them a try. No matter the color of bike or model I'm quite sure that FasterSpider would be going faster then me. But PH005 or I mean Mick... You of course are a different story and I know from talking with sis that you could school everyone on this forum if only you had a bike of equal ability. Getting back to the point of this thread... If you PAINT IT BLACK you will instantly gain a lot of speed. I also have often said that I live in flat land country. I also live in a very populated and heavy traffic congested area. I recently read that Chicago has 4 of the top ten busiest expressways in the US. I have to ride a good hour to get to places where I would even consider taking my TRUE BLACKbird out of impulse and into warp. Even then we don't have a lot of hills or twisty stuff around for me to hone riding skills like others who get to ride in that terrian everyday. I would have to ride out about 2-3 hours to get to some decent hilly terrian and then there are few twisties to go with them. My point was that even if you feel that someone else may have been on a wrong gear I don't believe that its a fair assesment until you have been out there with traffic yourself. Really though if you feel differently then thats cool. Most pros on tracks can make hundreds of passes on a the same track and change shift points as they continue to know the track/suspension/and tune their bikes. By the way I mentioned earlier that my sis is a real kidder. She did mention when she told me about you being Mick D and good in the bedroom that she was kidding about one of them. She just wouldn't tell me which one.

09-13-2008, 5:53 PM	#1401
Logoman Join Date: Nov 02 2006 Location: SW Florida Age: 53 Posts: 383	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? I see the red and black XX owners are busy patting each other on the back. Seeking allies is a sign of weakness and illustrates the inherent feelings of inadequacy common with riders of the slow red and black bikes. Lois, thanks for the tongue-in-cheek invitation to Red Deer, but I'm uncomfortable dancing with men and having you dress up like a bear would only make it more awkward. BTW, remember to wrap my heavy duty reinforced silver XX PAIR block-off plates in red or black as a favor to UPS. Unless, of course, you want to wrap them in silver to get express shipping for the cost of ground. Hey, FS, that silver '02 XX in your photo isn't. Maybe that's where your confusion stems. You've been racing Tit birds and those, of course, have low power levels more in line with your own. But, it IS the color closest to silver and, therefore, deserves the place you gave it in the center of the photo. The center, as we all know, is reserved for race winners, with subordinates to each side. Last edited by Logoman; 09-13-2008 at 6:04 PM. Reason: Spelling

09-13-2008, 7:33 PM	#1403
PH005 Join Date: Jun 08 2008 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 408	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? Yes. Much better and sounds goooood. Dont want to sound critical, but, do you think looking at it that you may have made a couple of unnecessary down changes into bends that may have slowed you up ? Love the image of your head in the taco dial. ps, Red Rules, Twisty canyons.

09-13-2008, 8:11 PM	#1404
lois Join Date: Nov 06 2006 Location: Red Deer Age: 47 Posts: 4,689	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? Hey faster spider.......now thats what I'm talking about. Love to see a good " canyon carving" video. For those of you that were paying attention, did you notice the other 2 wrong clourd XX riders he smoked. Faster spider went by them so fast they looked more like peddle bikes than motorbikes....... FS, you and your RED XX rock buddy.....totaly rock...... The rest of you slow clourd losers may worship FS now......so kneel suckers Lois __________________ Call me "Captain Mudbucket".

09-14-2008, 1:03 AM	#1410
Strek Moderator Join Date: Jun 25 2007 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 5,213	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? Regardless of our conversation here on color and speed I find it interesting that there could be comments on riding and shifting from watching a video. There is a lot that you cannot determine from a video. Depth perception is different in the seat as a person is riding it then what it might appear on a vid. You also don't have a feeling for tire adhesion/grip and the real lean angle of a bike just from a vid. Until you have riden a stretch at speed more then a couple of times I would think that it would be hard to know yourself if you were selecting the right gear or if someone else in a video had the right gear selection. The other thing (and someone else mentioned this)is that FasterSpider is not on a closed track. He has to watch out for cages bicyclist animals and other motorcycles. Lets face it not everyone can be lucky enough to have a Blackbird no matter the color (slower or faster that you might also have to dodge if you were also lucky enough to have one of the faster of fastest colors) and I'm sure that there are some baggers that might be traveling that road at times that you would have to watch out for. I do have to say that I wish that we had some of those kind of roads around here.

09-14-2008, 1:17 AM	#1411
PH005 Join Date: Jun 08 2008 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 408	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? [quote=Strek;65194]Regardless of our conversation here on color and speed I find it interesting that there could be comments on riding and shifting from watching a video. There is a lot that you cannot determine from a video. Depth perception is different in the seat as a person is riding it then what it might appear on a vid. You also don't have a feeling for tire adhesion/grip and the real lean angle of a bike just from a vid. Until you have riden a stretch at speed more then a couple of times I would think that it would be hard to know yourself if you were selecting the right gear or if someone else in a video had the right gear selection. Obviously comments coming from an inexperienced rider. Look through the corners my uneducated friend. It is very simple. But then being on the slowest of BB's I guess that it is all somewhat new to you. The topic of Speed !

09-14-2008, 2:49 PM	#1414
Logoman Join Date: Nov 02 2006 Location: SW Florida Age: 53 Posts: 383	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? Continued hijack. If you've ridden for awhile, you can tell a lot about speed, throttle control, lines, shift and braking points, etc. in a ride video. Someone used to Florida riding could easily get in over their heads on a downhill run like FS posted. Speeds between 30 and 60 mph don't seem that fast, and they aren't, if the road is flat or you're going uphill. Downhill is a whole nother ballgame. And so is riding where there's a preponderance of law enforcement. As I intimated to before, we've all seen plenty of Youtube videos with riders doing extremely squidly things on their bikes. I'm impressed by the overall skill of these things, but I don't generally respect it due to the venues. It's only a matter of time before luck runs out and people get hurt or worse. Riding the fastest bike in the world won't help you if your skills aren't up to the task. Like FS, its always better to hone your riding skills on a red or black machine before stepping up to the superior power of a silver one.

hardley ableson

rassional superior.