General CBR XX Discussion: General Discussion of the Honda CBR 1100 XX Super Blackbird that does not fit into the other specific forums.
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How come bike color affect its top speed ?
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09-11-2008, 2:07 PM
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#1381 | Join Date: Apr 01 2007 Location: Spotsylvania VA Bike(s): XX, KTM 300 MXC, YZ 80, KX 60, KTM 50 Age: 35 Posts: 105
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I am still not sure that "upgrades" count for color domination.
Is there a rule book on this?
And I do agree with Lois that the bird in general is superfast. So it is hard to say that any bird is slow... unless the stator and rr have gone out and it is parked in the garage, which is another story.
But I still bring up the arguement that those people claiming to be the fastest color have in all reality added components to the bike to make it faster.
Black is still the fastest of all stock blackbirds. Honda made it that way.
Perhaps this arguement is exactly why honda has not released the new blackbird... perhaps they don't want to hurt the feelings of all those riders who bought colored birds rather than the original blackbird.
I know for a fact that Honda had to do away with the Hurricane because of it being too fast and named it the CBR. There is always degradation with next generations.
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09-11-2008, 3:53 PM
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#1382 | Join Date: Nov 02 2006 Location: SW Florida Bike(s): 02 Blackbird Age: 51 Posts: 323
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Originally Posted by Strek Logoman... TRUE BLACKbird riders never suffer from low self esteem so I wouldn't know what that is like for you. | No, black XX owners don't suffer from low self esteem as much as enjoy and embrace it. That, along with delusion, keeps the parking lot packed with black XX's down at the counseling center. Quote: |
I'm thinking its because you are in the same boat that PH005 is in and get more SATISFACTION from riding your bike then your girl or guy which ever rocks your boat.
| I get longer rather than more satisfaction from riding my silver XX rather than my dearly beloved, but in both cases unlike you black XX owners, I don't spend time crying and apologizing afterwards. Perhaps using your privates as a heatsink on that black antique you straddle wasn't a good idea after all. Quote:
Originally Posted by lois WHOA....did someone leave the lid off the stupid jar again? | No point in closing a jar you've emptied. And you're thorough. I couldn't find a crumb anywhere. Quote:
I think between the insane people with the 1200's, and the other ones with toilet seat fetishes, we are starting to smoke screen the whole truth of why colour effects the speed of a bike....and therefore why RED is of course the fastest colour.
Boys, all of the wrong clourd bikes are , in fact, awesomely quick....you can put a bike which is the colour of which we do not speak, up against anything else on the road and it will kill it......in a heart beat.
But sadly, the fact of the matter is, and always will be, and continues to be that....you all chickend out and bought the " slower" colour when it really mattered the most, and no matter how fast your present bike it, it is still slower than the RED XX's that the RED BRIGADE rides.
| I guess I may as well tell you...What looks liked chickening out to you is really just humility. Speak softly and carry a big throttle is our motto. Red XX's are like the loudmouth Leroy Brown at the local bar. We silver XX's just bide our time and when the dust clears those old blowhard red XX's of yours are laying on their sides with a couple of pieces gone. Quote: |
I have stated in the past that we red riders are not your enemy's. You should be nicer to us and then maybe some of us would ride with you....then, you may learn a thing or two from us, and then one day, after practicing really hard for 15 or 20 years you would all be ready to step up and finally have the skill and courage to own/ride the fastest colour........RED
| Thanks for the invite, but we'd rather hang out with Osama at a target painting contest. Sure, we'd learn a thing or two around you guys. The gestation period of head lice and how much acne cream it takes to cover a whole butt cheek, for instance, but these things are meaningless to silver XX owners. Quote:
But at the present rate with things are going, I see no hope for most of you. You all remind me of a bunch of boys at their first sock hopp.....you all want to dance with the girls, but instead you stay lined up against the wall like the bunch of shy, scared little wieners that you really are. girls don't bite (sure they don't...lol) and neither do we. However , I/we can only extend the olive branch for so long....because even with our superior strenth and good looks, we can only hold the branch out for so long.........
| All this talk about dancing boys is getting you lathered up. You bet we would like to dance with the girls. The reason we're scared, lined up with our backs against the wall, and guarding our wieners is to keep you from violating us. And you're lieing about biting. Fool me once... Quote:
So I would like to try a little something here with all my wrong clourd riders. I want you to stand up....right now ,and walk over to your mirror. Look at yourself in the mirror....I mean really look. Now ask yourself this as you gaze into the mirror. HOW DID I EVER GET THIS SLOW? WHY DO I RIDE LIKE A GIRL? WHAT WAS I THINKING WHEN I BOUGHT THE WRONG CLOURD BIKE? WHY AM I THINKING IN CAPITALS?
Now while still looking in the mirror, and using your most convincing voice repeat " I WANT TO BE LIKE LOIS" then thousand times.[
| I took the mirror test and couldn't get past a feeling of supremacy. When I started repeating "I want to be like Lois", I suddenly got an uncontrollable desire to put on a dress and make-up. I must have been channeling a little too hard.
An intervention is in your future, red XX owners. We silver XX owners know you'll be as angry as a tweaker tied to a chair, but it's for your own good. The path will not be easy, you'll want to slip back into your old slow ways and even hallucinate about Harleys. But, we'll be there for you every step of the way and, at the end, welcome you with open arms into the fastest group of riders in the world - the silver XX riders.
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09-11-2008, 3:55 PM
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#1383 | Join Date: May 16 2008 Location: Studio City, Ca Bike(s): Red 79 CBX and a Red 01 CBR1100XX Age: 46 Posts: 345
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Originally Posted by wigo And I do agree with Lois that the bird in general is superfast. So it is hard to say that any bird is slow.
Perhaps this arguement is exactly why honda has not released the new blackbird... perhaps they don't want to hurt the feelings of all those riders who bought colored birds rather than the original blackbird. | Yes, we are all extremely fast no matter what color our Birds may be.
I'm thinking Honda does not want to be responsible for the high deathrate attributed to hyper velocity speeds that would be attained by the next generation of XX.
I know quite a few guys that have wrecked really bad on ZX-14s and that is due to extreme hyper velocity speed which our Birds cannot reach unless they are highly modified.
Two of my ZX-14 friends are rebuilding their bikes and will be back on the road in short order. One of them is going for round three with his ZX-14.
Some guys don't want to learn because they have "Hyper velocity speed syndrome" and cannot give it up. Would you?
Personally, I am content with my small Flux Capacitor equipped and scary fast Red CBR1100XX Super Blackbird.
You all with color we do not speak Birds can squawk all you want, you know you are jealous of us Red Bird riders because not only are our Birds faster than yours but, they are prettier too. |
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09-11-2008, 6:42 PM
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#1384 | Join Date: Nov 02 2006 Location: SW Florida Bike(s): 02 Blackbird Age: 51 Posts: 323
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Not to continue the hijack, but about speed and wrecks...
I think a lot of us were surprised that Honda came out with the XX at all. Honda has always been fairly conservative about these type of things. So, it's not surprised me that Honda has settled with the XX while Kawasaki and Suzuki have fought it out.
I wasn't aware that ZX-14 owners were crashing in significant numbers. It sure seems that XX owners are. Stands to reason though. Speed can be a drug and its hard to stay 100% focused all the time.
Probably the best thing someone new to the hyperbike game can do is buy one of the entry level red XX's. They'll get a taste for power but not enough to alienate them. From there, they can work their way up to the black XX (modified, of course) and then on up to the silver XX once they get enough experience and fortitude.
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09-11-2008, 10:47 PM
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#1385 | Join Date: Jun 25 2007 Location: Chicago, Illinios Bike(s): 1999 CBR1100XX and 1988 CBR1000F Stock & excellent Posts: 1,827
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[quote=Logoman;64905]No, black XX owners don't suffer from low self esteem as much as enjoy and embrace it. That, along with delusion, keeps the parking lot packed with black XX's down at the counseling center.
I get longer rather than more satisfaction from riding my silver XX rather than my dearly beloved, but in both cases unlike you black XX owners, I don't spend time crying and apologizing afterwards. Perhaps using your privates as a heatsink on that black antique you straddle wasn't a good idea after all.
Logoman... Standing in that front of that mirror for that test of yours has really had an impact on your mind my friend. It's another indication of the low self esteem that you suffer from as a rider of a TRUE BLACKbird would never be that insecure to follow the red leaders instructions as you have done. You also get Longer SATISFACTION on you silver XX because it takes you soooo much longer to get to a destination then riders or TRUE BLACKbirds. Us riders of TRUE BLACKbirds are spending all the extra time we have with our women and in doing so enjoying our first choice of rides. You can keep enjoying yourself with your silverXX and the extra time it takes you to get anywhere. It is also apparent that you are confusing your quick on the draw performance with your second or who knows third fourth choice in rides with your silver XX. Your quick performance in those areas only makes your silver XX faster in your mind. At least while you are out spending all that LONG and Satisfying time on your bird you won't have to worry about suffering the rejection that you get when you spend time with a real person and they are not SATISFIED with your quick on the draw performance which only adds to your low self esteem problem.
If you PAINT IT BLACK your whole life can change my friend as you will get to destinations faster and have more time to work on improving your quick draw performance with a real person.
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09-12-2008, 7:15 AM
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#1386 | Join Date: Nov 06 2006 Location: Red Deer Bike(s): JUST A GIXXER AND AN XX....OK? Posts: 1,405
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Hey LOGOGIRL....don't forget about that 20HP I'm including with the pre-instaled and oiled PAIR plate orders....why with all that extra HP , you now stand a chance at finally beating that little neighbour kid on the red tricycle thats been handing you your A** for the last six months  <----------LOGOGIRL________________  <------------Lois
Kneel suckers
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09-12-2008, 10:40 AM
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#1387 | | Moderator Join Date: Aug 31 2007 Location: Seaford, Victoria, Australia Bike(s): 2007 CBR1100XX Age: 41 Posts: 2,288
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Originally Posted by lois you now stand a chance at finally beating that little neighbour kid on the red tricycle thats been handing you your A** for the last six months | So the secret is out now, hey Lois. You've been riding a tricycle (albeit a red one). When you grow up, you may even want to get a 2007 Iron Nail Grey and retire that dark pink tricycle once and for all.
__________________ Paul Never let a motorcycle take you somewhere your brain didn't get to three seconds earlier |
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09-12-2008, 2:33 PM
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#1388 | Join Date: Nov 02 2006 Location: SW Florida Bike(s): 02 Blackbird Age: 51 Posts: 323
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Originally Posted by Strek You also get Longer SATISFACTION on you silver XX because it takes you soooo much longer to get to a destination then riders or TRUE BLACKbirds. Us riders of TRUE BLACKbirds are spending all the extra time we have with our women and in doing so enjoying our first choice of rides. | It takes us silver XX owners longer to get to a destination due to the fact the superior speed of our bikes allow us to go distances that, just the thought of, cause your black XX owner knees to go as limp as your wrists.
If I wanted to follow the lead of you black XX owners then I, too, would be stuck with a slow ride and a woman who thinks of studly silver XX men while I sweat through my impersonation of an aging industrial sewing machine. Quote:
...At least while you are out spending all that LONG and Satisfying time on your bird you won't have to worry about suffering the rejection that you get when you spend time with a real person and they are not SATISFIED with your quick on the draw performance which only adds to your low self esteem problem.
If you PAINT IT BLACK your whole life can change my friend as you will get to destinations faster and have more time to work on improving your quick draw performance with a real person.
| This seems to be the foundation of a black XX rider's problems. Standing in front of a women who's finally succumbed to your begging and struggling to loosen a zipper that only hides more disappointment is not an aphrodisiac. Unlike you black XX owners who "thumb the starter for an hour" and then "drop the bike", we silver XX riders waste no time in taking advantage of situations that bring us pleasure and then capably make then last regardless of the ride we're on.
Painting anything black only makes it appear smaller and this is something you black XX riders can ill afford. Quote:
Originally Posted by lois Hey LOGOGIRL....don't forget about that 20HP I'm including with the pre-instaled and oiled PAIR plate orders....why with all that extra HP , you now stand a chance at finally beating that little neighbour kid on the red tricycle thats been handing you your A** for the last six months.
Kneel suckers | Why would a silver XX rider want to beat a child, moreless one that's handing them free ALE? That would be wrong. Like a Big Brother, our goal is to provide these red tricycle children hope for the future and nothing helps more in this regard that showing them a superior silver XX and our appreciation for the gift of beer.
Pretending that I'm a girl, calling me a sucker, and wishing I would kneel, underscores the secret personal desires the purchase of your red XX has already hinted at. Thankfully, I ride a silver XX and am able to keep a good distance from these off-color advances.
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09-12-2008, 3:51 PM
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#1389 | Join Date: Jun 25 2007 Location: Chicago, Illinios Bike(s): 1999 CBR1100XX and 1988 CBR1000F Stock & excellent Posts: 1,827
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[quote=Logoman;65043]It takes us silver XX owners longer to get to a destination due to the fact the superior speed of our bikes allow us to go distances that, just the thought of, cause your black XX owner knees to go as limp as your wrists.
Logoman... Wishing you had gone further is just that. Wishing. Just as it is when you are quick on the draw. I can hear you know trying to explain that... I wish that it was longer and more satisfying for you... Wishing doesn't make it true. You must be suffering from such low self esteem that it is impacting your ability to face reality. At this point I'm also left to wonder what longer would mean to you in the context of being with another person.
Longer as in longer lasting or Longer as in a larger size. I'm thinking that it is both.
If I wanted to follow the lead of you black XX owners then I, too, would be stuck with a slow ride and a woman who thinks of studly silver XX men while I sweat through my impersonation of an aging industrial sewing machine.
I don't speak for the other riders of TRUE BLACKbirds but no women that I have been with ever would be interested in your poor impersonation of a quick on the draw sweating sewing machine. The reality is much different then your description and that would be apparent at a first glance by the time you finally did show up. Besides they would be so exhausted after spending all of that time with a rider of a TRUE BLACKbird while waiting for you to show up to even be interested in a ride at that point in time. If anything it would be sloppy seconds for you. They would also look at you and instantly tell that you would rather spend your sweating industrial sewing machine time with your silver XX.
This seems to be the foundation of a black XX rider's problems. Standing in front of a women who's finally succumbed to your begging and struggling to loosen a zipper that only hides more disappointment is not an aphrodisiac. Unlike you black XX owners who "thumb the starter for an hour" and then "drop the bike", we silver XX riders waste no time in taking advantage of situations that bring us pleasure and then capably make then last regardless of the ride we're on.
Your quick draw performance may bring YOU pleasue but its the source of your low self esteem as your partner (boy or girl) is not being satisfied.
Once again... I cannot speak for all of the TRUE BLACKbird riders but I don't need to beg.
Painting anything black only makes it appear smaller and this is something you black XX riders can ill afford.
LOGOMAN... I didn't have to paint my motorcycle BLACK. It came that way and it doesn't bother me at all if it LOOKS smaller and just so you know it is something that I can afford. Its a motorcycle. It sounds like you have some personal experience to relate here. Like you might have painted a part of your body BLACK in order to make if faster as well.
Tell me you haven't done that???? The recall calls for painting your motorcycle BLACK. Not a part of your body. Have you Painted Your Member BLACK? I thought that you were quick enough on the draw in that department already and wouldn't want to make that part of your performance any faster. I was talking about painting your motorcycle BLACK not your member. We TRUE BLACKbird riders would never paint a part of our body BLACK. You must have been standing in front of that mirrow for quite some time it seems. Dude even if my BLACKbird was smaller then others it wouldn't bother me in the least. Goldwings are bigger then any BLACKbird. I think even your silver XX might have enough power to beat a goldwing. My point is that on a motorcycle you cannot equate size with speed.
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09-12-2008, 6:00 PM
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#1390 | Join Date: Jun 08 2008 Location: Brisbane Australia Bike(s): 1998 CBR1100XX Super Blackbird Posts: 409
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Strek. Your Sis' says Hi. She wishes you well with the operation and says she will bundle up some old dresses and undergarments that should fit you when you finally have the nerve to go out on the street.
ps, Red Rules. |
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09-12-2008, 6:45 PM
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#1391 | Join Date: Jun 25 2007 Location: Chicago, Illinios Bike(s): 1999 CBR1100XX and 1988 CBR1000F Stock & excellent Posts: 1,827
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Originally Posted by PH005 Strek. Your Sis' says Hi. She wishes you well with the operation and says she will bundle up some old dresses and undergarments that should fit you when you finally have the nerve to go out on the street.
ps, Red Rules. |
That's awfully nice of her. Tell sis that the operation that I'm having is just to reduce size. Not eliminate it.  Being on a TRUE BLACKbird just makes one burst with pride. If she is feeling that those garments would fit me then tell her congrats on the gigantic weight loss and on her sudden growth spurt in height. I guess its been a while since I saw sis. Last time I saw her she was three feet shorter then me and weighed 300lbs more then me.
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09-12-2008, 7:33 PM
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#1392 | Join Date: May 16 2008 Location: Studio City, Ca Bike(s): Red 79 CBX and a Red 01 CBR1100XX Age: 46 Posts: 345
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You guys and your sisters are just too much. Red Rules the road as it rules your hearts. |
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09-12-2008, 9:43 PM
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#1393 | Join Date: Nov 02 2006 Location: SW Florida Bike(s): 02 Blackbird Age: 51 Posts: 323
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Originally Posted by Strek If anything it would be sloppy seconds for you. | Ye protesteth much. The Windy City is aptly named.
Those sloppy seconds you speak of would only be sloppy for the first 3 inches. The next 7 would remain ready to accept the pleasure only a silver XX man could deliver. Quote: |
Once again... I cannot speak for all of the TRUE BLACKbird riders but I don't need to beg.
| We all know the cohesion of black XX owners is a thing of the past. Some have already taken the cure and admitted to the inferior power of their bikes. Quote: |
Dude even if my BLACKbird was smaller then others it wouldn't bother me in the least. Goldwings are bigger then any BLACKbird. I think even your silver XX might have enough power to beat a goldwing. My point is that on a motorcycle you cannot equate size with speed.
| Sounds like a concession confession. Smaller? It is. Wouldn't bother you? We know.
When you're behind that Gold Wing, move to the left or right once in awhile so I can see you in my rear view mirrors.
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09-13-2008, 2:29 AM
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#1394 | Join Date: Nov 06 2006 Location: Red Deer Bike(s): JUST A GIXXER AND AN XX....OK? Posts: 1,405
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When the wrong clour riders speak, this is all I hear anymore.
Bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla black bla bla bla bla bla bla BIGGER bla bla bla bla bla bla BETTER bla bla bla bla bla LOIS IS #1 bla bla bla bla bla RED RIDERS ARE HUNG LIKE MOOSE bla bla bla BLA BLA BLA BLA......
The size of your wiener has nothing to do with red XX's being the fastest colour.
Although.....come to think of it, Logoman man may argue that they are both fun to ride...
and he's calling me the fag ....?
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09-13-2008, 9:51 AM
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#1395 | Join Date: Jun 25 2007 Location: Chicago, Illinios Bike(s): 1999 CBR1100XX and 1988 CBR1000F Stock & excellent Posts: 1,827
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Lois couldn't agree more with your comments on logoman. He seems to have a hard time distinguishing when a comment is about a motorcycle vs when it is about what is causing his low self esteem.
I don't know if you redbird riders as fortunate as you describe above in your last post and I really wouldn't care to know. If you all are, then good on you. My sis has some nice things to say about PH005 so I'll trust her on that.
She's a kidder though and I can never tell when she is telling it to me as is or just kidding around.
Despite logomans issues with low self esteem and his inability to see the cause of his low self esteem or his lack of ability to comprehend the written word and you redbirds walking around like Smiling Bob all the time neither helps in producing more speed on your motorcycles. I've already tried to explain to logoman that his quick on the draw performances in one area of his life do not carry over to his motorcycle but he keeps getting things confused. I'm thinking it might be because he followed Lois' advice and stood in front of that mirror too long.
Wait... I did think of one area where a persons size might help to produce more speed so Lois might be on to something here. It stands to reason that a larger section of your anatomy would weigh more. More weight would in turn help to speed things up on a downhill. Of course the same forces would be at work on the next uphill. I guess it boils down to if you have more downhills then uphills.
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09-13-2008, 12:08 PM
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#1396 | Join Date: May 16 2008 Location: Studio City, Ca Bike(s): Red 79 CBX and a Red 01 CBR1100XX Age: 46 Posts: 345
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Originally Posted by Strek Wait... I did think of one area where a persons size might help to produce more speed so Lois might be on to something here. It stands to reason that a larger section of your anatomy would weigh more. More weight would in turn help to speed things up on a downhill. Of course the same forces would be at work on the next uphill. I guess it boils down to if you have more downhills then uphills. | A persons weight is not going to help them go faster up hill if they are as heavy or heavier than I am. I have hills galore to ride in and I prefer going up hill to going down because I feel that I have more control but, the simple fact of physics is the more the rider weighs, the slower the bike is going to be.
Even a CBR1100XX can only be so fast with a 210 pound pilot compared to a CBR1100XX with a 150-160 pound rider.
No matter all of that, I say I have the fastest CBR1100XX around and it happens to be Candy Glory Red.
The color we do not speak CBR1100XX rider I saw up on the Mulholland Hwy, Snake with his all stock exhausted CBRXX did not have the balls to ride against me and my Red Bird going down the hill on the clock.
He was too scared to race me, it was because my Bird is an intimidating flashy Red color and sounds friggin mean with the Akrapovic exhaust system compared to the "Slow me down boat anchor" lame stock exhaust system he was stuck with.
Needless to say, I rule the Hill with my Red Bird. Video of Another run down the Snake - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting |
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09-13-2008, 12:38 PM
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#1397 | Join Date: Jun 25 2007 Location: Chicago, Illinios Bike(s): 1999 CBR1100XX and 1988 CBR1000F Stock & excellent Posts: 1,827
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Fasterspider... That is exactly what I was saying. More weight means faster downhill. More weight means slower uphill. I'm glad you live in a hilly area.
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09-13-2008, 12:46 PM
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#1398 | Join Date: May 16 2008 Location: Studio City, Ca Bike(s): Red 79 CBX and a Red 01 CBR1100XX Age: 46 Posts: 345
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Originally Posted by Strek Fasterspider... That is exactly what I was saying. More weight means faster downhill. More weight means slower uphill. I'm glad you live in a hilly area. | If I was to lose all the weight I put on in the past 8 years, I would be as light as you and my Bird would perform even better than she does now which is outstanding as it is. 
I love living here in So Cal with canyons & freeways & whatnot to ride on, I just wish there was another CBR1100XX Blackbird owner around me with the balls to ride hard with me in those canyons or on those freeways.
Strek, I know you would ride with me if you were here. You have heart which is a rarity in a color we do not speak Bird owner. |
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09-13-2008, 5:17 PM
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#1399 | Join Date: May 16 2008 Location: Studio City, Ca Bike(s): Red 79 CBX and a Red 01 CBR1100XX Age: 46 Posts: 345
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Originally Posted by fasterspider I just wish there was another CBR1100XX Blackbird owner around me with the balls to ride hard with me in those canyons or on those freeways. | So today was the 1st time I saw another Blackbird at the Rock Store and there was not just one but, two other Birds with mine being the best looking and fastest of the three.
My Red Bird having a titanium exhaust system had something to do with my bike being the lightest and therefore the fastest of the three.
My Red Bird definately commanded the most admiration of the three just because she is red and the best looking of the three.
The silver Bird was a 2000, mine a 2001 and the black one a 2003.
The silver Bird was out from Victorville, over 100 miles away just for the ride of it. The black Bird was from Los Angeles somewhere local and we all know I am out on my Bird every chance I get.
No one wanted to go play on the Hill with me though, they knew I would have left them in the dust with my far superior Red Bird.
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