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SilverBrd · 04-17-2008, 11:04 PM

Ummmmmm X1 the 02's are silver.....

ArmyStrong · 04-17-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverBrd

Silver Birds are the F A S T E S T ones out there boys. It's all one complicated mathmatical formula that makes this true and unfortunatley none of you would understand the complexity of it.
So................in other words..............

SILVERS ARE THE FASTEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just plain silly.

ArmyStrong · 04-17-2008, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 11dblex

the above theory isn't exactly right ... although based on the truth that all bikes start off black, creative liberty is taken when he (I refure to call another guy "Sweetruss") starts talking about the bike changing color "the faster they go"
In reality .... all the bikes start off black (for economic reasons) ... for marketing reasons the additional colors are added (got to attract the female buyers too

) on top of the black base coat. the reason the black bikes are fastest is because they don't have all that extra weight!

blue = +5lbs
red = +7lbs
nail grey = +10lbs (actual iron content)
silver = +8.5lbs

Hope this helps....

P.S., my bike is black

Honorable mention, this required a lot of thought...still mumbo jumbo.

billypf · 04-17-2008, 11:09 PM

I cant believe how many times, and for how long the color debate has been on the forum.
What it comes down too, the larger the honda wing, the more you can fly. Added to the color debate, which seems to point to silver. I think that my blue/silver/black with the honda wing takes the prize.

ArmyStrong · 04-17-2008, 11:09 PM

...and the Nobel Prize in Physics goes to...

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Actually all blackbirds are the same color, but as their speeds increase, their percieved color changes...

very slow bikes have a violet color, because the light coming off the bike relative to the speed of the bikes is very fast...

as the bike speeds up, the frequency of the light has to change, because it cannot increase in speed (sort of a light doppler effect)

as they increase in speed, they go from ultraviolet(black) to violet, to indigo, to blue, to green, to yellow, to orange, to red, to infrared, you don't see infrared bikes, because your eyes can't adjust to recieve it...
__________________
Ðuane

ArmyStrong · 04-17-2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by billypf

I cant believe how many times, and for how long the color debate has been on the forum.
What it comes down too, the larger the honda wing, the more you can fly. Added to the color debate, which seems to point to silver. I think that my blue/silver/black with the honda wing takes the prize.

Oh, wait...much as I hate to admit, Billy makes a lot of sense...

ArmyStrong · 04-17-2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ArmyStrong

Oh, wait...much as I hate to admit, Billy makes a lot of sense...

Can anyone debunk that theory?

Nutter67 · 04-17-2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverBrd

Silver Birds are the F A S T E S T ones out there boys. It's all one complicated mathmatical formula that makes this true and unfortunatley none of you would understand the complexity of it.

Try me.

I've forgotten more scientific formulas than anyone has cared to teach me.

Unless this was a boring baseless claim from someone who rides a boring silver bike.

Any way, it is not the colour that makes it fast, it is the year of manufacture. The newer they are, the faster they go

.

SilverBrd · 04-17-2008, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by billypf

I cant believe how many times, and for how long the color debate has been on the forum.
What it comes down too, the larger the honda wing, the more you can fly. Added to the color debate, which seems to point to silver. I think that my blue/silver/black with the honda wing takes the prize.

Sorry Billy you probably have the slowest because it took longer to get your bike painted multi colors and therefore your Bird is confused.

As for the newer bikes elsewhere they are slower too due to the new paint schemes available because Honda never could find a faster color than silver. They didn't want to violate the "Gentlemans Agreement" but accidently did with the 02 silver year so they went on to slower colors such as red, blue, black, iron nail, etc. If I didn't mention your color that means it is even slower than the rest.

Do some research and you all will see!!!

DragonXX · 04-17-2008, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverBrd

Sorry Billy you probably have the slowest because it took longer to get your bike painted multi colors and therefore your Bird is confused.

As for the newer bikes elsewhere they are slower too due to the new paint schemes available because Honda never could find a faster color than silver. They didn't want to violate the "Gentlemans Agreement" but accidently did with the 02 silver year so they went on to slower colors such as red, blue, black, iron nail, etc. If I didn't mention your color that means it is even slower than the rest.

Do some research and you all will see!!!

SilverBrd ! .................................................. ........... It's time for your medication

ArmyStrong · 04-17-2008, 11:57 PM

Whatever did I do before I found this forum???

xDayan · 04-18-2008, 2:16 AM

^ who knows

I think '03 blacks with a added customs paint job

are the fastest.

Nah customs with Turbos are

but thats going too far

Cruzmsl · 04-18-2008, 10:25 AM

Actually, I believe that there is an inverse relationship between color and speed.....the brighter the color, the slower the bike..... The visual center of the Policeman's brain (occipital lobe) has a greater response to brighter colors, forcing the riders of brightly colored bikes to ride slower in response to avoid getting tickets.

Case in Point: Why do you think they call the color Red "Write Me Up Red?"

Cruzmsl · 04-18-2008, 10:26 AM

Wait....what the hell did I just say? I gotta get off this medication.....

11dblex · 04-18-2008, 2:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ArmyStrong

Honorable mention, this required a lot of thought...still mumbo jumbo.

Thanks for the honerable mention

... not to sure about the "mumbo jumbo" tag line that followed

upon further research it's also come to light (no pun intended)
because colors are actually refractions of lightwaves, anything but black is going to be slower ....
the wavelengths of light that are being refracted are actually causing turbulance (human senses are unable to detect this, but take my word that it's true) that makes it slightly more difficult to pass through space and time!!! the more colors you have on your bike the more light refracted and the more difficult to move through space and time!!!

so this coupled with my previous explanation should solve the debate of which color is faster for all time!!!

P.S. -
I hope the rest of you are having as much fun with this as I am ... seems most are!
ArmyStrong, looking forward to your thoughts.

smoothmotion · 04-18-2008, 3:37 PM

Me thinks it is the weight of the rider that makes the biggest difference.

JMHO.

janabetis · 04-18-2008, 4:26 PM

Black's evil twin

+5 bhp

ArmyStrong · 04-18-2008, 11:18 PM

A few thoughts on "colors". Please do not be offended. You chose the color of your Bird. You had a choice. Now, please view this listing as it relates to speed. Other topics may follow...

The general characteristic of each color follows.

*Blue represents tranquility, tenderness, sensitivity, love and affection.

*Green represents persistence, self-esteem, possessiveness and obstinacy.

*Red represents desire, domination, sexuality and aggression.

*Yellow represents spontaneity, originality, expectancy and exhilaration.

*Violet represents a search for reality in thoughts and desires.

*Black represents ultimate renunciation and expression of nothingness.

*Grey represents refusal to be involved or to reveal things.

Hypothesis:

The tenderness, and tranquility of blue, cannot equate to speed. Sorry Billy.
The above would suggest, that green birds would selfishly hold back horsepower. Are there any green Birds out there??
RED. Nuff said. (mag, mike, me, et al, rejoice!)
While yellow, it seems, would be content doin 65. It thinks that's fast.
The explanation of grey (or silver, a derivitive thereof) could be fast, but it is destined to forever hold back. See any postings by Silverbird. SilverXXRider, there must be solace to be found, somewhere.
That leaves us with black...aah, black. Ultimate renunciation and expression of nothingness...Whaddayawantmetodo? I'm sorry. 11dblex, max, bikewarrior, and countless others who fell victim to false expectations...sigh...

SilverBrd · 04-18-2008, 11:32 PM

Um...... grey is not silver

So as I said earlier.............Silver is the fastest dudes!!!!

I took my happy pills Dragon!!!!!

ArmyStrong · 04-18-2008, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Um...... grey is not silver

So as I said earlier.............Silver is the fastest dudes!!!!

I took my happy pills Dragon!!!!!

The explanation of grey (or silver, a derivitive thereof) could be fast, but it is destined to forever hold back. See any postings by Silverbird. SilverXXRider, there must be solace to be found, somewhere.
A derivitive, I say! I'm try'na be funny here!!

XX-XR · 04-19-2008, 12:40 AM

Hopefully the Red, Blue and Silver were still built by Honda in Japan like the Black ones. I was blowing up a pic of my friends Ducati and under certain light I found what looked like a paint defect but look real close it's not, it's built at another plant.

Birdmanxx · 04-19-2008, 3:11 AM

Any color that lacks strong chromatic content is said to be unsaturated, achromatic, or near neutral. Pure achromatic colors include black, white and all greys.

Black absorbs all light in the color spectrum, is often used as a symbol of menace or evil, is associated with death and mourning in many cultures, it is also associated with unhappiness and silence. Black can also prevent us from growing and changing. We often cloak ourselves in black to hide from the world.

Grey acts as a shield from outside influence. However grey generally has a negative feeling associated with fog, clouds and smoke. Grey is the colour of evasion and non-commitment since it is neither black nor white. It relates to walling everything off, remaining separate, uncommitted and uninvolved.

Silver is the colour of the moon, which is ever changing. It balances, harmonises and is mentally cleansing.

Red is a bright, warm color that evokes strong emotions. It is considered an intense, or even angry, color that creates feelings of excitement or intensity. Red is the colour of blood and has a stimulating action on our heart and circulation; red light will raise the blood pressure.

Blue is described as a favourite colour by many people and is one of the most popular colours. It calls to mind feelings of calmness or serenity. It is often described as peaceful, tranquil, secure, and orderly. People are more productive in blue rooms and on blue bikes.

Blue is a cool, calming colour. It represents the night, so makes us feel calm and relaxed as if we are being soothed by the deep blue of the night sky. Light and soft blues make us feel quiet and protected from all the vehicles and scenery flying past us.

Blue is a cool colour and red is a warm colour and black is …?

Warm colours like red “appear more active” without actually being more active so that’s why police pull them over more. “Cool colours tend to recede” quicker so the police know they have no hope of catching them.

Blue and red are primary (pure) colours but isn’t red just a dark shade of pink!

So for me, blue is for primary (pure) blackbird enthusiasts.

Finally speed depends not on colour but on rider!

Note: I have sourced my information from the internet. I have edited, added to and cut anything that didn’t suit my perspective.

DragonXX · 04-19-2008, 3:41 AM

" .. I have sourced my information from the internet. I have edited, added to and cut anything that didn’t suit my perspective. " - Birdmanxx

You sure you're not a politician ?

Jambo · 04-19-2008, 5:11 AM

Matt Gun-metal Black Birds are fastest, They get the same paint job as the stealth bomber as they are too fast n streamlined for radar detection or any gloss shine has been stripped off by the sheer speed.
IMO

Birdmanxx · 04-19-2008, 7:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DragonXX

You sure you're not a politician ?

If you vote for me I will ensure that blackbirds will be excempt from all road rules because they are inherently safe and there will be roads improved and set aside just for motorbikes.

Did I strike a nerve?

I'm happy to be riding a tranquil, peaceful bike! I don't really care what the colour, blackbirds are FINE!

xxxron · 04-19-2008, 7:42 AM

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Originally Posted by billypf

I cant believe how many times, and for how long the color debate has been on the forum.
What it comes down too, the larger the honda wing, the more you can fly. Added to the color debate, which seems to point to silver. I think that my blue/silver/black with the honda wing takes the prize.

No way, man!
the combination of those three colors cause way too much turbulance!
I'm surprised you aren't aware of that.

xxxron · 04-19-2008, 7:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Nutter67

Try me.

I've forgotten more scientific formulas than anyone has cared to teach me.

Unless this was a boring baseless claim from someone who rides a boring silver bike.

Any way, it is not the colour that makes it fast, it is the year of manufacture. The newer they are, the faster they go

.

Personal Foul!

5 minutes for high sticking and a game misconduct!

tonyz · 04-19-2008, 7:50 AM

the blue ones also make you the best looking

t.

SilverBrd · 04-19-2008, 8:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyz

the blue ones also make you the best looking

t.

Now it's getting deep!!

11dblex · 04-19-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ArmyStrong

A few thoughts on "colors". Please do not be offended. You chose the color of your Bird. You had a choice. Now, please view this listing as it relates to speed. Other topics may follow...

I am really enjoying this thread and all the creative posts!!!!

Army.... hope your ride was a safe one!!!

04-17-2008, 11:04 PM	#31
SilverBrd TEDZXX Join Date: Jan 22 2008 Location: Lockhart, Texas Age: 45 Posts: 1,742	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? Ummmmmm X1 the 02's are silver..... __________________ 02 Silver Bird, Throttlemeister, HID's, D&D Show and Go full system exhaust, Zero Gravity Double Bubble, Power Commander, Speedohealer, Corbin seat, Lowered foot pegs & more Mods to come!!!

04-17-2008, 11:09 PM	#34
billypf Join Date: Mar 20 2007 Location: Sleepy Hollow, IL Age: 22 Posts: 618	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? I cant believe how many times, and for how long the color debate has been on the forum. What it comes down too, the larger the honda wing, the more you can fly. Added to the color debate, which seems to point to silver. I think that my blue/silver/black with the honda wing takes the prize.

04-17-2008, 11:57 PM	#41
ArmyStrong Administrator Join Date: Mar 02 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA via Bronx, NY Age: 40 Posts: 4,094	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? Whatever did I do before I found this forum??? __________________ Murphys 6th law of combat operations: If it's stupid but it works, it ain't stupid.

04-18-2008, 2:16 AM	#42
xDayan Join Date: Apr 17 2008 Location: Anchorage, Alaska, USA Posts: 28	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? ^ who knows I think '03 blacks with a added customs paint job are the fastest. Nah customs with Turbos are but thats going too far

04-18-2008, 10:25 AM	#43
Cruzmsl Join Date: Apr 10 2008 Location: Washington, USA Posts: 41	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? Actually, I believe that there is an inverse relationship between color and speed.....the brighter the color, the slower the bike..... The visual center of the Policeman's brain (occipital lobe) has a greater response to brighter colors, forcing the riders of brightly colored bikes to ride slower in response to avoid getting tickets. Case in Point: Why do you think they call the color Red "Write Me Up Red?"

04-18-2008, 10:26 AM	#44
Cruzmsl Join Date: Apr 10 2008 Location: Washington, USA Posts: 41	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? Wait....what the hell did I just say? I gotta get off this medication.....

04-18-2008, 3:37 PM	#46
smoothmotion Join Date: Oct 23 2006 Location: Nova Scotia, Canadian eh! Posts: 238	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? Me thinks it is the weight of the rider that makes the biggest difference. JMHO. __________________ Crystal Ride it like ya stole it!

04-18-2008, 11:18 PM	#48
ArmyStrong Administrator Join Date: Mar 02 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA via Bronx, NY Age: 40 Posts: 4,094	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? A few thoughts on "colors". Please do not be offended. You chose the color of your Bird. You had a choice. Now, please view this listing as it relates to speed. Other topics may follow... The general characteristic of each color follows. Blue represents tranquility, tenderness, sensitivity, love and affection. Green represents persistence, self-esteem, possessiveness and obstinacy. Red represents desire, domination, sexuality and aggression. Yellow represents spontaneity, originality, expectancy and exhilaration. Violet represents a search for reality in thoughts and desires. Black represents ultimate renunciation and expression of nothingness. Grey represents refusal to be involved or to reveal things. Hypothesis: The tenderness, and tranquility of blue, cannot equate to speed. Sorry Billy. The above would suggest, that green birds would selfishly hold back horsepower. Are there any green Birds out there?? RED. Nuff said. (mag, mike, me, et al, rejoice!) While yellow, it seems, would be content doin 65. It thinks* that's fast. The explanation of grey (or silver, a derivitive thereof) could be fast, but it is destined to forever hold back. See any postings by Silverbird. SilverXXRider, there must be solace to be found, somewhere. That leaves us with black...aah, black. Ultimate renunciation and expression of nothingness...Whaddayawantmetodo? I'm sorry. 11dblex, max, bikewarrior, and countless others who fell victim to false expectations...sigh... __________________ Murphys 6th law of combat operations: If it's stupid but it works, it ain't stupid.

04-18-2008, 11:32 PM	#49
SilverBrd TEDZXX Join Date: Jan 22 2008 Location: Lockhart, Texas Age: 45 Posts: 1,742	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? Um...... grey is not silver So as I said earlier.............Silver is the fastest dudes!!!! I took my happy pills Dragon!!!!! __________________ 02 Silver Bird, Throttlemeister, HID's, D&D Show and Go full system exhaust, Zero Gravity Double Bubble, Power Commander, Speedohealer, Corbin seat, Lowered foot pegs & more Mods to come!!!

04-19-2008, 3:11 AM	#52
Birdmanxx Birdman Join Date: Feb 17 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 280	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? Any color that lacks strong chromatic content is said to be unsaturated, achromatic, or near neutral. Pure achromatic colors include black, white and all greys. Black absorbs all light in the color spectrum, is often used as a symbol of menace or evil, is associated with death and mourning in many cultures, it is also associated with unhappiness and silence. Black can also prevent us from growing and changing. We often cloak ourselves in black to hide from the world. Grey acts as a shield from outside influence. However grey generally has a negative feeling associated with fog, clouds and smoke. Grey is the colour of evasion and non-commitment since it is neither black nor white. It relates to walling everything off, remaining separate, uncommitted and uninvolved. Silver is the colour of the moon, which is ever changing. It balances, harmonises and is mentally cleansing. Red is a bright, warm color that evokes strong emotions. It is considered an intense, or even angry, color that creates feelings of excitement or intensity. Red is the colour of blood and has a stimulating action on our heart and circulation; red light will raise the blood pressure. Blue is described as a favourite colour by many people and is one of the most popular colours. It calls to mind feelings of calmness or serenity. It is often described as peaceful, tranquil, secure, and orderly. People are more productive in blue rooms and on blue bikes. Blue is a cool, calming colour. It represents the night, so makes us feel calm and relaxed as if we are being soothed by the deep blue of the night sky. Light and soft blues make us feel quiet and protected from all the vehicles and scenery flying past us. Blue is a cool colour and red is a warm colour and black is …? Warm colours like red “appear more active” without actually being more active so that’s why police pull them over more. “Cool colours tend to recede” quicker so the police know they have no hope of catching them. Blue and red are primary (pure) colours but isn’t red just a dark shade of pink! So for me, blue is for primary (pure) blackbird enthusiasts. Finally speed depends not on colour but on rider! Note: I have sourced my information from the internet. I have edited, added to and cut anything that didn’t suit my perspective. __________________ *It is better to live rich than to die rich.* (Samuel Johnson)

04-19-2008, 3:41 AM	#53
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04-19-2008, 5:11 AM	#54
Jambo Join Date: Apr 17 2008 Location: UK - Bucks Age: 40 Posts: 23	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? Matt Gun-metal Black Birds are fastest, They get the same paint job as the stealth bomber as they are too fast n streamlined for radar detection or any gloss shine has been stripped off by the sheer speed. IMO __________________ OBSESSION a word used by the lazy to describe the dedicated. *Martin*

04-19-2008, 7:50 AM	#58
tonyz Join Date: Jul 18 2007 Location: shelburne ontario canada Age: 51 Posts: 41	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? the blue ones also make you the best looking t.