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thechamp55 · 07-04-2009, 11:41 PM

Lol it has been a driveway dolly for awhile but I have been rebuilding it for the last month or so (I started right before my friend rode my blackbird into a wall and my GF dumped me), and got everything put back together but something is not right with the fuel pump. I get power all the way to the pump, until I plug the pump in, then I get nothing? Anyhow back then it was bored .30 over and had forged pistons on aftermarket conecting rods, an E-cam, GT-40X heads, GT-40 intake, 24lb injectors, 75mm throttle body, and full exhaust. It has a Gforce tranny, with modified internal ratios and had a horrid 3.08 final drive. It also had suspension, brake and cosmetic work.

Now it has a stock shortblock, GT-40P heads, 1.7rockers but the stock cam, 4.10 gears and a dry ntrous system (supports 35-125 shots) everything else is the same. I think I may go a differnt direction with the paint too.

fasterspider · 07-04-2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by thechamp55

(right before my friend rode my blackbird into a wall and my GF dumped me)

With a friend like that, who needs enemies?
She wasn't right for you anyways.

thechamp55 · 07-05-2009, 1:05 AM

no shit on both accounts

Strek · 07-05-2009, 3:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Grutok

So you modded your Mustang to make it faster??

How much have your down to that black "Driveway Dolly" of yours to get it to even move????

Grutok... No need to mod a TRUE BLACKbird. The chip takes care of everything. That is why if a rainbird is painted BLACK it will be faster then all of the rainbirds. In fact the only mod that a rainbird needs is a can of BLACK spray paint.

Poundstretcher · 07-05-2009, 5:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Strek

Grutok... No need to mod a TRUE BLACKbird. The chip takes care of everything. That is why if a rainbird is painted BLACK it will be faster then all of the rainbirds. In fact the only mod that a rainbird needs is a can of BLACK spray paint.

Only Australia & the U.K. have the Full powered models no need for a chip

Strek · 07-05-2009, 8:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Poundstrecher

Only Australia & the U.K. have the Full powered models no need for a chip

You don't have a chip? No chips at all? Why would they make a BLACKbird without a single chip on the entire bike? How does it even work without a single chip on the bike? Power commanders have the chip too.

heisti · 07-05-2009, 9:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Poundstrecher

Only Australia & the U.K. have the Full powered models no need for a chip

what chip?
where is my chip?
inside or outside of the carburetor?

Grutok · 07-05-2009, 9:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Strek

You don't have a chip? No chips at all? Why would they make a BLACKbird without a single chip on the entire bike? How does it even work without a single chip on the bike? Power commanders have the chip too.

You're missing Poundstretcher's point.......
You don't have to add aftermarket chips to enhance the PERFECTION that is the BLUE CBRXX!!

Strek · 07-05-2009, 9:27 AM

You'll have to go back and read through this thread to find out about the chip. Honda puts chips in all of their ECU's. Sorry if you don't have any chips in yours.

Grutok · 07-05-2009, 9:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Strek

You'll have to go back and read through this thread to find out about the chip. Honda puts chips in all of their ECU's. Sorry if you don't have any chips in yours.

Never said there wasn't chips, just not spurious aftermarket stuff......

Strek · 07-05-2009, 9:40 AM

This is a chip that is on the bike stock. You'll need to go back to about page 39 of this thread if you want to read more about the chip that Honda puts in the BLACKbird and its importance to this thread.

heisti · 07-05-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Strek

You'll have to go back and read through this thread to find out about the chip. Honda puts chips in all of their ECU's. Sorry if you don't have any chips in yours.

hm...

do i have to downgrade to an FI-model to understand your discussion and to have the same problems?

Grutok · 07-05-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Strek

I knew I could count on you guys to try to argue against the scientific logic that was presented. The key word in that last sentance was "try". Honda did make the bike in many colors and they are all fast but there is a little known chip in the ECU called a IWTBBLIUTBSICBFA chip. It has a color detection circuit and automatically cuts off one of the cylinders once the color is changed to anything other then black. The good news is that it also works in reverse if you have a color other then black and then paint the bike black the chip recognizes the color change and the world is good again. The full name of the chip is I Want To Be Black Like I Used To Be So I Can Be Fastest Again.

But you obviously missed the code on the reverse face of the chip.

I can completely understand you're missing it, after all it's on the side you don't see. And I can understand the Aussie, Brit and Irish ignorance of the chip as it doesn't exist on our bikes, only other areas have it.

The code is "TIOHTMYFGABACB", which is known as the "This Is Only Here To Make You Feel Good About Buying A Castrated Blackbird" chip, but refered to for simplicity as the "SUCKER" chip!!!!!!

thechamp55 · 07-05-2009, 2:56 PM

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Originally Posted by heisti

hm...

do i have to downgrade to an FI-model to understand your discussion and to have the same problems?

Youre english is failing you, you mean upgrade, race an FI bike of the same color up a mountain in shitty wheather to see what I mean

thechamp55 · 07-05-2009, 2:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Grutok

But you obviously missed the code on the reverse face of the chip.

I can completely understand you're missing it, after all it's on the side you don't see. And I can understand the Aussie, Brit and Irish ignorance of the chip as it doesn't exist on our bikes, only other areas have it.

The code is "TIOHTMYFGABACB", which is known as the "This Is Only Here To Make You Feel Good About Buying A Castrated Blackbird" chip, but refered to for simplicity as the "SUCKER" chip!!!!!!

I just looked, American BLACKbirds dont have the revrse code, bust be other markets, Canada maybe?

Grutok · 07-05-2009, 4:18 PM

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Originally Posted by thechamp55

I just looked, American BLACKbirds dont have the revrse code, bust be other markets, Canada maybe?

Ah, OK.

You have the EARLY version of the chip, before the apology / SUCKER code was added to aid stock control in the factory.

Don't worry about it, it's no more castrated than the other "clipped" blackbirds!

heisti · 07-05-2009, 4:40 PM

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Originally Posted by thechamp55

Youre english is failing you, you mean upgrade, race an FI bike of the same color up a mountain in shitty wheather to see what I mean

ok... upgrading to the universe of problems, failures and issues....

sounds better?

thechamp55 · 07-05-2009, 7:55 PM

and beibg able to drive up mountains and then into a valley. Example; go across california from the coast, through the mountains and into death valley

heisti · 07-05-2009, 8:45 PM

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Originally Posted by thechamp55

and beibg able to drive up mountains and then into a valley. Example; go across california from the coast, through the mountains and into death valley

hey sweetheart: i´m living in austria.
in the middle of the alps.
we are the inventors of alpine skies.
what do you think i´m doing here?
wanking while looking on my bike in the livingroom?????

heisti · 07-05-2009, 8:47 PM

where is the smiley for barking?

fasterspider · 07-05-2009, 8:49 PM

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Originally Posted by heisti

we are the inventors of alpine skies.
what du you think i´m doing here?

You must be skiing in July then.

heisti · 07-05-2009, 8:55 PM

lol
no too expensive on the glaciers and 100% poison for nature.
but there are some areas where you can use your skies on snow 12months/year

fasterspider · 07-05-2009, 9:01 PM

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Originally Posted by heisti

lol
no too expensive on the glaciers and 100% poison for nature.
but there are some areas where you can use your skies on snow 12months/year

I have not been snow skiing since 1981. Thought about going this past winter but, our skiing season was over before I got around to it.
I rode my Red Bird all winter long instead.

thechamp55 · 07-05-2009, 9:55 PM

Im Texas there are 0 skiing days a year and 365 riding days. I like it that way.

Strek · 07-06-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Grutok

But you obviously missed the code on the reverse face of the chip.

I can completely understand you're missing it, after all it's on the side you don't see. And I can understand the Aussie, Brit and Irish ignorance of the chip as it doesn't exist on our bikes, only other areas have it.

The code is "TIOHTMYFGABACB", which is known as the "This Is Only Here To Make You Feel Good About Buying A Castrated Blackbird" chip, but refered to for simplicity as the "SUCKER" chip!!!!!!

Grutok... Nope just looked at mine. Nothing like that on the chip. The only thing it says on the bottom of mine is TRUE BLACKbird required to make this chip work. If you have a rainbird paint it BLACK.

lois · 07-06-2009, 1:37 AM

The only chip...well, chips, that my RED XX has, are the one's in the bag I keep under the seat, to eat, while I am killing time by the side of the road, waiting for the other slow assed colours to catch up.

Hey 3o minutes with nothing to do can get kind of boring.....

Oh, and by the way.

Kneel suckers.

Lois

thechamp55 · 07-06-2009, 1:45 AM

that 900RR i wrecked today was red. It felt slower than I expected.

dracki · 07-06-2009, 5:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bikewarrior

I heard strange thing here :
Black color is the FASTER !!!!!!! i thought it was a joke but seems its true , i am not into physics issues much ..... but ..can anybody please tell me how can a color lower the top speed of a machine ??????

hmmm,well Shewie brought out the original post & tried using it as his BIG GUN attack on the LESS SUPERIOR BIKES(according to Shewie

), i think he's got it all wrong,infact Shewie & all rainbirds & rockbirds have it ALL wrong,has anyone actualy read the questian asked in the first place,read it again & what you'll see in the QUESTIAN is THIS,,

,,
.."BUT, can ANYBODY please tell me HOW CAN A COLOUR LOWER THE TOP SPEED OF A MACHINE".

ok just for the DUMMIES

,that last bit asks why is the rainbirds so slow,like myself & many other True BLACKbird owners have been asking the same,but you rainbird fags still don't get it

,I'VE beaten all other colours,so WHY are you lot so SLOW

deadman · 07-06-2009, 7:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Strek

This is a chip that is on the bike stock. You'll need to go back to about page 39 of this thread if you want to read more about the chip that Honda puts in the BLACKbird and its importance to this thread.

The only chip you and Drackie have is the one on your shoulder, and its a black one at that,

cheers,
Brian.

deadman · 07-06-2009, 7:50 AM

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Originally Posted by fasterspider

You must be skiing in July then.

Certainly am, Hanging out for it. Skiing this weekend, Shithot mate.
Its as good as riding the Bird, and no fun police no matter how fast you go,
Cheers,
Brian.

07-04-2009, 11:41 PM	#3871
thechamp55 Join Date: Mar 19 2009 Location: Texas Age: 21 Posts: 555	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? Lol it has been a driveway dolly for awhile but I have been rebuilding it for the last month or so (I started right before my friend rode my blackbird into a wall and my GF dumped me), and got everything put back together but something is not right with the fuel pump. I get power all the way to the pump, until I plug the pump in, then I get nothing? Anyhow back then it was bored .30 over and had forged pistons on aftermarket conecting rods, an E-cam, GT-40X heads, GT-40 intake, 24lb injectors, 75mm throttle body, and full exhaust. It has a Gforce tranny, with modified internal ratios and had a horrid 3.08 final drive. It also had suspension, brake and cosmetic work. Now it has a stock shortblock, GT-40P heads, 1.7rockers but the stock cam, 4.10 gears and a dry ntrous system (supports 35-125 shots) everything else is the same. I think I may go a differnt direction with the paint too. __________________ Everyone Dies. Not Everyone Lives.

07-05-2009, 1:05 AM	#3873
thechamp55 Join Date: Mar 19 2009 Location: Texas Age: 21 Posts: 555	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? no shit on both accounts __________________ Everyone Dies. Not Everyone Lives.

07-05-2009, 9:27 AM	#3879
Strek Moderator Join Date: Jun 25 2007 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 5,072	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? You'll have to go back and read through this thread to find out about the chip. Honda puts chips in all of their ECU's. Sorry if you don't have any chips in yours.

07-05-2009, 9:40 AM	#3881
Strek Moderator Join Date: Jun 25 2007 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 5,072	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? This is a chip that is on the bike stock. You'll need to go back to about page 39 of this thread if you want to read more about the chip that Honda puts in the BLACKbird and its importance to this thread.

07-05-2009, 7:55 PM	#3888
thechamp55 Join Date: Mar 19 2009 Location: Texas Age: 21 Posts: 555	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? and beibg able to drive up mountains and then into a valley. Example; go across california from the coast, through the mountains and into death valley __________________ Everyone Dies. Not Everyone Lives.

07-05-2009, 8:47 PM	#3890
heisti composite carbon constructions Join Date: Feb 22 2008 Location: Enns, Austria Age: 39 Posts: 6,115	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? where is the smiley for barking? __________________ have a nice trip video: youtube \| project: carbon \| chat: here

07-05-2009, 8:55 PM	#3892
heisti composite carbon constructions Join Date: Feb 22 2008 Location: Enns, Austria Age: 39 Posts: 6,115	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? lol no too expensive on the glaciers and 100% poison for nature. but there are some areas where you can use your skies on snow 12months/year __________________ have a nice trip video: youtube \| project: carbon \| chat: here

07-05-2009, 9:55 PM	#3894
thechamp55 Join Date: Mar 19 2009 Location: Texas Age: 21 Posts: 555	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? Im Texas there are 0 skiing days a year and 365 riding days. I like it that way. __________________ Everyone Dies. Not Everyone Lives.

07-06-2009, 1:37 AM	#3896
lois Join Date: Nov 06 2006 Location: Red Deer Age: 47 Posts: 4,667	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? The only chip...well, chips, that my RED XX has, are the one's in the bag I keep under the seat, to eat, while I am killing time by the side of the road, waiting for the other slow assed colours to catch up. Hey 3o minutes with nothing to do can get kind of boring..... Oh, and by the way. Kneel suckers. Lois __________________ Call me "Captain Mudbucket".

07-06-2009, 1:45 AM	#3897
thechamp55 Join Date: Mar 19 2009 Location: Texas Age: 21 Posts: 555	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? that 900RR i wrecked today was red. It felt slower than I expected. __________________ Everyone Dies. Not Everyone Lives.