How come bike color affect its top speed ? - Discuss How come bike color affect its top speed ? on CBRXX, the ultimate on-line community for Honda motorcyclists. Read it in General CBR XX Discussion. (General Discussion of the Honda CBR 1100 XX Super Blackbird that does not fit into the other specific forums.)

ArmyStrong · 05-21-2008, 1:15 AM

Lou....?

DragonXX · 05-21-2008, 2:17 AM

Over 300 ...........................

Nutter67 · 05-21-2008, 4:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Birdmanxx

People that feel most inferior tend to argue the loudest - and the longest.

Lou, Armystrong - are you guys gunna take this?????

docsevicz · 05-21-2008, 9:55 PM

lois
Fire engines are red because fire engines are rush'in, and Russians are red, and since fire engines are always rush'in they are red. Not becuz some little kid is quick on his trike. That does not make them faster. The absence of color with a gold dust is what makes them faster. Black with a dusting of gold dusts all others. I think we all can see the forest through the trees now.

ArmyStrong · 05-21-2008, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nutter67

Lou, Armystrong - are you guys gunna take this?????

Have no idea who this gentleman is referring to.

Banshee · 05-21-2008, 10:51 PM

Actually silver is more conductive than gold, but the rest of your argument stands. So I guess that my Black with silver fleck is even faster than your black with gold. All silver of course is heavier and so slower, and neither titanium or iron are as conductive so...

DragonXX · 05-22-2008, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArmyStrong

Lookey, lookey what I've found. Could this be The Grail? Could this be the answer we all purport to have? Can it be that the sum is greater than it's parts? Will this change the course of...Blackbirdery? Will Sir's Dragon and Nutter seek to find that color in the scheme? (that which does not exist) Have I provided solace for the Birdman? Will the once mighty Silverbrd delusionally try to claim that since the hugger is in the front it must arrive faster? Will anyone claim that color on the lower part of the fairing? Will the black brigade try to erroneously claim the tires are what makes it move? Will FONZIE (sorry to pull you into this, big guy) falsely state that orange is the dominate color here? Is ArmyStrong extending an olive branch? Could this bring an end to the war?!? CAN WE ALL GET ALONG?!?

I think ArmyStrong has been in the napalm again during his recuperation

fasterspider · 05-22-2008, 1:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lois

I have an answer to your question. I hopped a plane and flew over to the Honda factory in Yousuka , Japan. While there I had the pleasure of meeting with their top man, Mesuka sumtime. Mesuka is head of the dept that used to over see the R&D for the CBR1100XX between 1997-2007.

Mesuka introduced me to the head of the paint dept, Theysuka tomuch. When asked about colors after the 2003 model years, Theysuka explained to me that after 2003 they decided that there were no more good colors. So instead of coming up with new colors, they simply decided to pump out the paint bilge (thats the big catch pan underneath the large paint booths that the over spray and dust and dirt and bug poop falls into and collects over time) and "re-use" this mixture of seventh rate, free paint that had been just sitting there at the bottom of the bilge.

When asked why they used this crappy paint to paint the 04's and newer, Mesuka and Theysuka explained that after 2003, nobody cared anymore, because the only colors that were left for the XX were all "girly" colors, as the good colors had already been used.

He further stated that the best color ever used was the RED, sure, they played with a few of the other colors like blue-silver and black, but these colors only seemed to effect the bike performance, especially top speed and horse power. When asked about colors after 2003, he simply would not speak of them.

So....there you have it.

Lou aka > speaker of the truth - the Indiana Jones of honesty - master of the hula hoop - and all around fun guy to be with.

That is a good sounding explanation to me.
I am also a speaker of truth, brutally honest they call me. I like the brutal part and pride myself on my honesty.
My red CB1100XX is the fastest bike I have ever ridden and I rode a black Blackbird in 2002 after giving it an oil change at the owners request. It was also fast but, I think my red Bird is faster

Thanks for the info from Japan, it was informative and definately entertaining to say the least.

bullet · 05-22-2008, 5:04 PM

...this was the fastest production bird ever been sold on the market as is.....in england as a limited anniversary edition v&m blackbird...

http://www.bikersoracle.com/jaws/cbr1200.jpg

over and out of thiS thread ..(or else i ll start using drugs...!!)

Frank851 · 05-22-2008, 5:23 PM

As all Silver bird owners know, everyone wishes they could ride just as fast as we do on ours. It's not just the bike, it's the riders that are also faster on the Silver 2002 birds. I think that's all I need to say on the subject.

Nutter67 · 05-22-2008, 8:01 PM

Why would I wish to be only as fast as you when I would be in front of you?

SilverBrd · 05-23-2008, 3:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank851

As all Silver bird owners know, everyone wishes they could ride just as fast as we do on ours. It's not just the bike, it's the riders that are also faster on the Silver 2002 birds. I think that's all I need to say on the subject.

Nuff said!!!!

Banshee · 05-23-2008, 5:29 PM

It may actually be true, Silver. Given how many times I heard "Sorry mate. Didn't see you..." when I had a silver grey car, the colour is invisible to drivers. That being said, silver/grey metallic bike riders need to travel faster just to avoid having the same said after some random cager takes them out from behind or beside.

It isn't the bike that is faster though. It is the survival needs of the rider, the constant stress of being invisible on the road & having to dodge all the blind drivers. The rest of us can concentrate a bit more on enjoying the ride!

Birdmanxx · 05-23-2008, 6:51 PM

When I was a child I thought that red was faster. Adults quite often play on the naivete (innocent ignorance of the truth) of children to plant ideas and concepts in children's minds that they can use to entertain their friends and neighbours. "Did you hear what junior said about his red trike being faster than my black car, isn't that cute ...". When I was young I was also told that cats were the female version of dogs and that milk comes from cows!

Now I have grown up and I know better. Men are often reluctant to grow up because being a child is such fun and we like to hold on to the fun in life - so we buy bigger toys! I understand why many of you are caught up in the fastest colour concept, but one day you'll look back on all this and laugh at your naivete.

Some of you may never grow up and you will still be happy 'til the day you die because you will still be having the fun of a child. It's called living in a fantasy sometimes. I say good luck to you and I'm pleased that you can be happy. When you open your mind and grow past your childish knowledge you will be able to tackle bigger, more responsible issues that actually make a difference in life!

Children are cute, however adults being childish don't really bring to mind the word cute!

Just be careful not to regress or you'll be talking baby language soon - goo goo ga ga!

To a child caught up in fantasy none of this makes any sense, but maybe some of you are on the verge of discovery and are ready to take the journey to a new level of perception and reality - you will not be alone!

Great to see you all having such fun with this!

Nutter67 · 05-23-2008, 7:25 PM

Huh, milk comes from cows??? I thought it came from the milkbar......

lois · 05-23-2008, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverBrd

Dammit!!! I thought throwing the gay thing would have you guys giving up! Tough bunch here I tell ya. I think you better watch out for Lois tho....I think he believes me!

Silver is the fastest and typing silver in small font won't make it slower!! Good try for you dark pink guys er.... I mean.....red slow poke guys or gals whichever you preferred to be called.

Listen......if you will finally give up and admitt that RED is , in fact , the fastest color of any colors that were used on the Super Blackbirds, I will come out of the closet. I am not gay....but please know that I am prepaired to do what ever is nessesary to win this color war, and create a few converts along the way......

hob · 05-24-2008, 5:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikedevine

Actually the faster the bike goes, the more heat is generated, and the redder the bike gets. The red birds are the fastest because they don't need to wait for the heat. They are red hot right out of the gate.

lois · 05-24-2008, 5:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hob

Now your talking......these are my kind of people.....

lois · 05-24-2008, 6:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hob

Quote:

Originally Posted by docsevicz

lois
Fire engines are red because fire engines are rush'in, and Russians are red, and since fire engines are always rush'in they are red. Not becuz some little kid is quick on his trike. That does not make them faster. The absence of color with a gold dust is what makes them faster. Black with a dusting of gold dusts all others. I think we all can see the forest through the trees now.

I would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for clearing this whole thing up for me. I had no idea that " rush'in " was an actual word.

And as for the color black............listen, I have covered this 12 ways till Sunday.

Black is not a fast color, it is not fun to say, and does not rhyme with anything cool.

But, If this will help you , I will put it another way that isn't so scientific and lots more easy to understand.......black is un-fast.....black has an actual negative effect on speed itself.

A study was recently done at Yale's speed / color department, and this study was performed by the top people in that place where the studying is mostly done. (?)
These "study people" worked night and day to help come up with the " facts" as they are now about to be presented to you, in a very studied and presentable manner.

Their studies show, and prove , beyond a shadow of a doubt, that not only does the color black make you look fat, it also causes a lag in time. That's right, you heard me, black is so slow, that people who own black bikes are getting fatter , and, aging faster than others whom have the faster colors. ( except, of course for those that have bikes the colors of which we do not speak....they are screwed in a totally different way, but I can't get into that now)

If this will help you to get a grip let's look at it this way.

A black hole, to most of us it is self explanatory, but I will spell it out and try to help clarify it for you. A black hole is just a big black thing that sits there and slowly sucks.
Why do they use the word black? why not red hole or silver hole.......I mean it's obvious.....really, think about it.

As for your whole "dusting of gold" thing.......unfortunately that's just crazy talk, I can only assume that you have not slept for three days and have wondered into this forum by accident.

Nutter67 · 05-24-2008, 8:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lois

Black is not a fast color, it is not fun to say, and does not rhyme with anything cool.

But, If this will help you , I will put it another way that isn't so scientific and lots more easy to understand.......black is un-fast.....black has an actual negative effect on speed itself.

A study was recently done at Yale's speed / color department, and this study was performed by the top people in that place where the studying is mostly done. (?)
These "study people" worked night and day to help come up with the " facts" as they are now about to be presented to you, in a very studied and presentable manner.

Their studies show, and prove , beyond a shadow of a doubt, that not only does the color black make you look fat, it also causes a lag in time. That's right, you heard me, black is so slow, that people who own black bikes are getting fatter , and, aging faster than others whom have the faster colors. ( except, of course for those that have bikes the colors of which we do not speak....they are screwed in a totally different way, but I can't get into that now)

If this will help you to get a grip let's look at it this way.

A black hole, to most of us it is self explanatory, but I will spell it out and try to help clarify it for you. A black hole is just a big black thing that sits there and slowly sucks.
Why do they use the word black? why not red hole or silver hole.......I mean it's obvious.....really, think about it.

All this who-hah comes from people who actually own black bikes, but are so embarrassed by that fact, they have to paint their bike red. Go on, tell us, what colour is underneath your paint eh, what is the real colour of your ABS plastic? Wouldn't happen to be black, would it???

So you actually ride a bike - the colour of which is un-fun and SLOWLY sucks??

ArmyStrong · 05-24-2008, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullet

...this was the fastest production bird ever been sold on the market as is.....in england as a limited anniversary edition v&m blackbird...

http://www.bikersoracle.com/jaws/cbr1200.jpg

over and out of thiS thread ..(or else i ll start using drugs...!!)

Thanks to you Bullet. Your honesty is refreshing.

ArmyStrong · 05-24-2008, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nutter67

All this who-hah comes from people who actually own black bikes, but are so embarrassed by that fact, they have to paint their bike red. Go on, tell us, what colour is underneath your paint eh, what is the real colour of your ABS plastic? Wouldn't happen to be black, would it???

So you actually ride a bike - the colour of which is un-fun and SLOWLY sucks??

RED is added for hp. HELL-OOOO!

ArmyStrong · 05-24-2008, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lois

Listen......if you will finally give up and admitt that RED is , in fact , the fastest color of any colors that were used on the Super Blackbirds, I will come out of the closet. I am not gay....but please know that I am prepaired to do what ever is nessesary to win this color war, and create a few converts along the way......

And this is why, the victory of the Red Brigade is all but assured.

fasterspider · 05-24-2008, 10:32 AM

You all forget the fact that red is what all Honda's are made of, even your inferior & slow colored Birds are red on the inside.
Mr. Honda would flip in his grave if he heard the sacralidge you all spoke of his red.

Mine is red inside and outside which makes it faster than all others just because.

Birdmanxx · 05-24-2008, 9:14 PM

I'm actually starting to like black birds and silver birds and titanium birds, I am getting rather bored with the colour starting with the letter R and ending in the letter D with an EEEE inside it. What other colours come after 2003 that would be more interesting. It goes without saying that I like blue too, but I'd better say it because I like to type blue, it is such a comfortable colour to type - blue, blue, blue ...

lois · 05-24-2008, 9:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArmyStrong

RED is added for hp. HELL-OOOO!

You tell em Russ.....+++1

(jeopardy music playing in the back ground) "Thank you Alex, I'll take the painfully obvious for a thousand"

P.S, only one eyed leg humpers like the color blue.

XX4me · 05-25-2008, 9:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank851

As all Silver bird owners know, everyone wishes they could ride just as fast as we do on ours. It's not just the bike, it's the riders that are also faster on the Silver 2002 birds. I think that's all I need to say on the subject.

Silver is indeed the fastest.
I can prove it too.

Nutter67 · 05-25-2008, 9:56 PM

OK, then prove it. This should be interesting.

Ok Russ and Lou, get ready to take aim.......

lois · 05-26-2008, 12:15 AM

......What....oh....was someboby going to prove something.......

When it does come, it will more than likely go like this....

Silver is faster....

......

..........silver is faster.....

Boy will that finally settle this argument.

Anyways , wake me when someone, (hell... even an Auzie), comes up with something that might prove that RED is not the fastest color.

Nutter67 · 05-26-2008, 4:42 AM

With the position of the International Date Line, everything in Oz happens before the US and surrounding areas. Therefore my bird will be there before yours. That means my bird is in front of yours, and thus, faster.

There you go, 2007 Iron Nail Grey is faster than your red bird.

Cant be anymore definitive than that.

05-21-2008, 1:15 AM	#301
ArmyStrong Administrator Join Date: Mar 02 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA via Bronx, NY Age: 40 Posts: 4,083	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? Lou....? __________________ Murphys 6th law of combat operations: If it's stupid but it works, it ain't stupid.

05-21-2008, 2:17 AM	#302
DragonXX ... Get A Good Lawyer ! Join Date: Dec 19 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Age: 45 Posts: 2,729	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? Over 300 ........................... __________________ " 'Birds of a feather, flock together " Quote of the month: "Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein

05-21-2008, 9:55 PM	#304
docsevicz Join Date: Jan 24 2008 Location: Massachusetts Age: 49 Posts: 473	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? lois Fire engines are red because fire engines are rush'in, and Russians are red, and since fire engines are always rush'in they are red. Not becuz some little kid is quick on his trike. That does not make them faster. The absence of color with a gold dust is what makes them faster. Black with a dusting of gold dusts all others. I think we all can see the forest through the trees now.

05-21-2008, 10:51 PM	#306
Banshee Join Date: Jun 21 2007 Location: Springwood, West of Hell (Sydney), Australia Age: 43 Posts: 1,082	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? Actually silver is more conductive than gold, but the rest of your argument stands. So I guess that my Black with silver fleck is even faster than your black with gold. All silver of course is heavier and so slower, and neither titanium or iron are as conductive so...

05-22-2008, 5:04 PM	#309
bullet Join Date: Jun 12 2007 Location: GREECE-ATHENS Age: 39 Posts: 969	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? ...this was the fastest production bird ever been sold on the market as is.....in england as a limited anniversary edition v&m blackbird... http://www.bikersoracle.com/jaws/cbr1200.jpg over and out of thiS thread ..(or else i ll start using drugs...!!) __________________ http://www.facebook.com/#/profile.ph...00000710085835

05-22-2008, 5:23 PM	#310
Frank851 Frank851 Join Date: Jun 11 2007 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 37	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? As all Silver bird owners know, *everyone* wishes they could ride just as fast as we do on ours. It's not just the bike, it's the riders that are also faster on the Silver 2002 birds. I think that's all I need to say on the subject.

05-22-2008, 8:01 PM	#311
Nutter67 Administrator Join Date: Aug 31 2007 Location: Seaford, Victoria, Australia Age: 42 Posts: 5,444	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? Why would I wish to be only as fast as you when I would be in front of you? __________________ *Paul* *Never let a motorcycle take you somewhere your brain didn't get to three seconds earlier*

05-23-2008, 5:29 PM	#313
Banshee Join Date: Jun 21 2007 Location: Springwood, West of Hell (Sydney), Australia Age: 43 Posts: 1,082	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? It may actually be true, Silver. Given how many times I heard "Sorry mate. Didn't see you..." when I had a silver grey car, the colour is invisible to drivers. That being said, silver/grey metallic bike riders need to travel faster just to avoid having the same said after some random cager takes them out from behind or beside. It isn't the bike that is faster though. It is the survival needs of the rider, the constant stress of being invisible on the road & having to dodge all the blind drivers. The rest of us can concentrate a bit more on enjoying the ride!

05-23-2008, 6:51 PM	#314
Birdmanxx Birdman Join Date: Feb 17 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 280	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? When I was a child I thought that red was faster. Adults quite often play on the naivete (innocent ignorance of the truth) of children to plant ideas and concepts in children's minds that they can use to entertain their friends and neighbours. "Did you hear what junior said about his red trike being faster than my black car, isn't that cute ...". When I was young I was also told that cats were the female version of dogs and that milk comes from cows! Now I have grown up and I know better. Men are often reluctant to grow up because being a child is such fun and we like to hold on to the fun in life - so we buy bigger toys! I understand why many of you are caught up in the fastest colour concept, but one day you'll look back on all this and laugh at your naivete. Some of you may never grow up and you will still be happy 'til the day you die because you will still be having the fun of a child. It's called living in a fantasy sometimes. I say good luck to you and I'm pleased that you can be happy. When you open your mind and grow past your childish knowledge you will be able to tackle bigger, more responsible issues that actually make a difference in life! Children are cute, however adults being childish don't really bring to mind the word cute! Just be careful not to regress or you'll be talking baby language soon - goo goo ga ga! To a child caught up in fantasy none of this makes any sense, but maybe some of you are on the verge of discovery and are ready to take the journey to a new level of perception and reality - you will not be alone! Great to see you all having such fun with this! __________________ *It is better to live rich than to die rich.* (Samuel Johnson)

05-23-2008, 7:25 PM	#315
Nutter67 Administrator Join Date: Aug 31 2007 Location: Seaford, Victoria, Australia Age: 42 Posts: 5,444	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? Huh, milk comes from cows??? I thought it came from the milkbar...... __________________ *Paul* *Never let a motorcycle take you somewhere your brain didn't get to three seconds earlier*

05-24-2008, 10:32 AM	#324
fasterspider Join Date: May 16 2008 Location: Studio City, Ca Age: 47 Posts: 838	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? You all forget the fact that red is what all Honda's are made of, even your inferior & slow colored Birds are red on the inside. Mr. Honda would flip in his grave if he heard the sacralidge you all spoke of his red. Mine is red inside and outside which makes it faster than all others just because. __________________ Ray#1 The fasterspider You must have bumped your head http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...birdavatar.jpg

05-24-2008, 9:14 PM	#325
Birdmanxx Birdman Join Date: Feb 17 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 280	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? I'm actually starting to like black birds and silver birds and titanium birds, I am getting rather bored with the colour starting with the letter R and ending in the letter D with an EEEE inside it. What other colours come after 2003 that would be more interesting. It goes without saying that I like blue too, but I'd better say it because I like to type blue, it is such a comfortable colour to type - blue, blue, blue ... __________________ *It is better to live rich than to die rich.* (Samuel Johnson)

05-25-2008, 9:56 PM	#328
Nutter67 Administrator Join Date: Aug 31 2007 Location: Seaford, Victoria, Australia Age: 42 Posts: 5,444	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? OK, then prove it. This should be interesting. Ok Russ and Lou, get ready to take aim....... __________________ *Paul* *Never let a motorcycle take you somewhere your brain didn't get to three seconds earlier*

05-26-2008, 12:15 AM	#329
lois Join Date: Nov 06 2006 Location: Red Deer Age: 46 Posts: 4,599	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? ......What....oh....was someboby going to prove something....... When it does come, it will more than likely go like this.... Silver is faster....................silver is faster..... Boy will that finally settle this argument. Anyways , wake me when someone, (hell... even an Auzie), comes up with something that might prove that RED is not the fastest color. __________________ Call me "Captain Mudbucket".

05-26-2008, 4:42 AM	#330
Nutter67 Administrator Join Date: Aug 31 2007 Location: Seaford, Victoria, Australia Age: 42 Posts: 5,444	Re: How come bike color affect its top speed ? With the position of the International Date Line, everything in Oz happens before the US and surrounding areas. Therefore my bird will be there before yours. That means my bird is in front of yours, and thus, faster. There you go, 2007 Iron Nail Grey is faster than your red bird. Cant be anymore definitive than that. __________________ *Paul* *Never let a motorcycle take you somewhere your brain didn't get to three seconds earlier*