General CBR XX Discussion: General Discussion of the Honda CBR 1100 XX Super Blackbird that does not fit into the other specific forums.
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How come bike color affect its top speed ?
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05-21-2008, 2:15 AM
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#301 | Join Date: Mar 02 2008 Location: Bronx, NY Bike(s): RED(the fast color), 2001 CBR1100XX, 2004 ZZR600 Age: 39 Posts: 1,593
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Lou....?
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05-21-2008, 3:17 AM
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#302 | | ... Get A Good Lawyer ! Join Date: Dec 20 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Bike(s): Honda '07 CBR1100XX Super Blackbird Age: 44 Posts: 1,906
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Over 300 ...........................
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05-21-2008, 5:55 AM
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#303 | | Moderator Join Date: Aug 31 2007 Location: Seaford, Victoria, Australia Bike(s): 2007 CBR1100XX Age: 41 Posts: 2,288
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Originally Posted by Birdmanxx People that feel most inferior tend to argue the loudest - and the longest. | Lou, Armystrong - are you guys gunna take this????? 
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05-21-2008, 10:55 PM
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#304 | Join Date: Jan 24 2008 Location: Massachusetts Bike(s): 2003 CBR1100 2006 VTX1300 Age: 47 Posts: 234
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lois
Fire engines are red because fire engines are rush'in, and Russians are red, and since fire engines are always rush'in they are red. Not becuz some little kid is quick on his trike. That does not make them faster. The absence of color with a gold dust is what makes them faster. Black with a dusting of gold dusts all others. I think we all can see the forest through the trees now.
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05-21-2008, 11:06 PM
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#305 | Join Date: Mar 02 2008 Location: Bronx, NY Bike(s): RED(the fast color), 2001 CBR1100XX, 2004 ZZR600 Age: 39 Posts: 1,593
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Originally Posted by Nutter67 Lou, Armystrong - are you guys gunna take this?????   | Have no idea who this gentleman is referring to.
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05-21-2008, 11:51 PM
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#306 | Join Date: Jun 21 2007 Location: Springwood, West of Hell (Sydney), Australia Bike(s): Red '98 'bird gone, not forgotten, Black '07 Bird Age: 41 Posts: 494
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Actually silver is more conductive than gold, but the rest of your argument stands. So I guess that my Black with silver fleck is even faster than your black with gold. All silver of course is heavier and so slower, and neither titanium or iron are as conductive so...
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05-22-2008, 1:42 AM
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#307 | | ... Get A Good Lawyer ! Join Date: Dec 20 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Bike(s): Honda '07 CBR1100XX Super Blackbird Age: 44 Posts: 1,906
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Originally Posted by ArmyStrong Lookey, lookey what I've found. Could this be The Grail? Could this be the answer we all purport to have? Can it be that the sum is greater than it's parts? Will this change the course of...Blackbirdery? Will Sir's Dragon and Nutter seek to find that color in the scheme? (that which does not exist) Have I provided solace for the Birdman? Will the once mighty Silverbrd delusionally try to claim that since the hugger is in the front it must arrive faster? Will anyone claim that color on the lower part of the fairing? Will the black brigade try to erroneously claim the tires are what makes it move? Will FONZIE (sorry to pull you into this, big guy) falsely state that orange is the dominate color here? Is ArmyStrong extending an olive branch? Could this bring an end to the war?!? CAN WE ALL GET ALONG?!? | I think ArmyStrong has been in the napalm again during his recuperation
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05-22-2008, 2:50 AM
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#308 | Join Date: May 16 2008 Location: Studio City, Ca Bike(s): Red 79 CBX and a Red 01 CBR1100XX Age: 46 Posts: 345
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Originally Posted by lois I have an answer to your question. I hopped a plane and flew over to the Honda factory in Yousuka , Japan. While there I had the pleasure of meeting with their top man, Mesuka sumtime. Mesuka is head of the dept that used to over see the R&D for the CBR1100XX between 1997-2007.
Mesuka introduced me to the head of the paint dept, Theysuka tomuch. When asked about colors after the 2003 model years, Theysuka explained to me that after 2003 they decided that there were no more good colors. So instead of coming up with new colors, they simply decided to pump out the paint bilge (thats the big catch pan underneath the large paint booths that the over spray and dust and dirt and bug poop falls into and collects over time) and "re-use" this mixture of seventh rate, free paint that had been just sitting there at the bottom of the bilge.
When asked why they used this crappy paint to paint the 04's and newer, Mesuka and Theysuka explained that after 2003, nobody cared anymore, because the only colors that were left for the XX were all "girly" colors, as the good colors had already been used.
He further stated that the best color ever used was the RED, sure, they played with a few of the other colors like blue-silver and black, but these colors only seemed to effect the bike performance, especially top speed and horse power. When asked about colors after 2003, he simply would not speak of them.
So....there you have it.
Lou aka > speaker of the truth - the Indiana Jones of honesty - master of the hula hoop - and all around fun guy to be with. | That is a good sounding explanation to me.
I am also a speaker of truth, brutally honest they call me. I like the brutal part and pride myself on my honesty.
My red CB1100XX is the fastest bike I have ever ridden and I rode a black Blackbird in 2002 after giving it an oil change at the owners request. It was also fast but, I think my red Bird is faster 
Thanks for the info from Japan, it was informative and definately entertaining to say the least. |
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05-22-2008, 6:04 PM
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#309 | Join Date: Jun 12 2007 Location: GREECE-ATHENS Bike(s): Cbr1100xx 02 tahitian blue Age: 38 Posts: 636
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...this was the fastest production bird ever been sold on the market as is.....in england as a limited anniversary edition v&m blackbird... http://www.bikersoracle.com/jaws/cbr1200.jpg
over and out of thiS thread ..(or else i ll start using drugs...!!)
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05-22-2008, 6:23 PM
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#310 | | Frank851 Join Date: Jun 11 2007 Location: Miami, FL Bike(s): Red 1991 Ducati 851, Silver 2002 CBR 1100XX Posts: 34
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As all Silver bird owners know, everyone wishes they could ride just as fast as we do on ours. It's not just the bike, it's the riders that are also faster on the Silver 2002 birds. I think that's all I need to say on the subject.
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05-22-2008, 9:01 PM
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#311 | | Moderator Join Date: Aug 31 2007 Location: Seaford, Victoria, Australia Bike(s): 2007 CBR1100XX Age: 41 Posts: 2,288
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Why would I wish to be only as fast as you when I would be in front of you?
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05-23-2008, 4:36 AM
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#312 | | TEDZXX Join Date: Jan 22 2008 Location: Lockhart, Texas Bike(s): 2002 Honda CBR1100XX (Silver) Blackbird Age: 43 Posts: 1,391
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Originally Posted by Frank851 As all Silver bird owners know, everyone wishes they could ride just as fast as we do on ours. It's not just the bike, it's the riders that are also faster on the Silver 2002 birds. I think that's all I need to say on the subject. |
Nuff said!!!!
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05-23-2008, 6:29 PM
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#313 | Join Date: Jun 21 2007 Location: Springwood, West of Hell (Sydney), Australia Bike(s): Red '98 'bird gone, not forgotten, Black '07 Bird Age: 41 Posts: 494
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It may actually be true, Silver. Given how many times I heard "Sorry mate. Didn't see you..." when I had a silver grey car, the colour is invisible to drivers. That being said, silver/grey metallic bike riders need to travel faster just to avoid having the same said after some random cager takes them out from behind or beside.
It isn't the bike that is faster though. It is the survival needs of the rider, the constant stress of being invisible on the road & having to dodge all the blind drivers. The rest of us can concentrate a bit more on enjoying the ride! |
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05-23-2008, 7:51 PM
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#314 | | Birdman Join Date: Feb 17 2008 Location: Melbourne Bike(s): Blue 2003 CBRxx Posts: 279
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When I was a child I thought that red was faster. Adults quite often play on the naivete (innocent ignorance of the truth) of children to plant ideas and concepts in children's minds that they can use to entertain their friends and neighbours. "Did you hear what junior said about his red trike being faster than my black car, isn't that cute ...". When I was young I was also told that cats were the female version of dogs and that milk comes from cows!
Now I have grown up and I know better. Men are often reluctant to grow up because being a child is such fun and we like to hold on to the fun in life - so we buy bigger toys! I understand why many of you are caught up in the fastest colour concept, but one day you'll look back on all this and laugh at your naivete.
Some of you may never grow up and you will still be happy 'til the day you die because you will still be having the fun of a child. It's called living in a fantasy sometimes. I say good luck to you and I'm pleased that you can be happy. When you open your mind and grow past your childish knowledge you will be able to tackle bigger, more responsible issues that actually make a difference in life!
Children are cute, however adults being childish don't really bring to mind the word cute!  Just be careful not to regress or you'll be talking baby language soon - goo goo ga ga!
To a child caught up in fantasy none of this makes any sense, but maybe some of you are on the verge of discovery and are ready to take the journey to a new level of perception and reality - you will not be alone!
Great to see you all having such fun with this!
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05-23-2008, 8:25 PM
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#315 | | Moderator Join Date: Aug 31 2007 Location: Seaford, Victoria, Australia Bike(s): 2007 CBR1100XX Age: 41 Posts: 2,288
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Huh, milk comes from cows??? I thought it came from the milkbar......
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05-23-2008, 11:52 PM
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#316 | Join Date: Nov 06 2006 Location: Red Deer Bike(s): JUST A GIXXER AND AN XX....OK? Posts: 1,405
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Originally Posted by SilverBrd Dammit!!! I thought throwing the gay thing would have you guys giving up! Tough bunch here I tell ya. I think you better watch out for Lois tho....I think he believes me!
Silver is the fastest and typing silver in small font won't make it slower!! Good try for you dark pink guys er.... I mean.....red slow poke guys or gals whichever you preferred to be called.  |
Listen......if you will finally give up and admitt that RED is , in fact , the fastest color of any colors that were used on the Super Blackbirds, I will come out of the closet. I am not gay....but please know that I am prepaired to do what ever is nessesary to win this color war, and create a few converts along the way......
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05-24-2008, 6:24 AM
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#317 | Join Date: May 22 2008 Location: Istanbul, Turkey Bike(s): Red '03 xx Posts: 48
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Originally Posted by mikedevine Actually the faster the bike goes, the more heat is generated, and the redder the bike gets. The red birds are the fastest because they don't need to wait for the heat. They are red hot right out of the gate. |  |
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05-24-2008, 6:43 AM
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#318 | Join Date: Nov 06 2006 Location: Red Deer Bike(s): JUST A GIXXER AND AN XX....OK? Posts: 1,405
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Originally Posted by hob | Now your talking......these are my kind of people.....
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05-24-2008, 7:59 AM
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#319 | Join Date: Nov 06 2006 Location: Red Deer Bike(s): JUST A GIXXER AND AN XX....OK? Posts: 1,405
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Originally Posted by hob | Quote:
Originally Posted by docsevicz lois
Fire engines are red because fire engines are rush'in, and Russians are red, and since fire engines are always rush'in they are red. Not becuz some little kid is quick on his trike. That does not make them faster. The absence of color with a gold dust is what makes them faster. Black with a dusting of gold dusts all others. I think we all can see the forest through the trees now. |
I would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for clearing this whole thing up for me. I had no idea that " rush'in " was an actual word.
And as for the color black............listen, I have covered this 12 ways till Sunday.
Black is not a fast color, it is not fun to say, and does not rhyme with anything cool.
But, If this will help you , I will put it another way that isn't so scientific and lots more easy to understand.......black is un-fast.....black has an actual negative effect on speed itself.
A study was recently done at Yale's speed / color department, and this study was performed by the top people in that place where the studying is mostly done. (?)
These "study people" worked night and day to help come up with the " facts" as they are now about to be presented to you, in a very studied and presentable manner.
Their studies show, and prove , beyond a shadow of a doubt, that not only does the color black make you look fat, it also causes a lag in time. That's right, you heard me, black is so slow, that people who own black bikes are getting fatter , and, aging faster than others whom have the faster colors. ( except, of course for those that have bikes the colors of which we do not speak....they are screwed in a totally different way, but I can't get into that now)
If this will help you to get a grip let's look at it this way.
A black hole, to most of us it is self explanatory, but I will spell it out and try to help clarify it for you. A black hole is just a big black thing that sits there and slowly sucks.
Why do they use the word black? why not red hole or silver hole.......I mean it's obvious.....really, think about it.
As for your whole "dusting of gold" thing.......unfortunately that's just crazy talk, I can only assume that you have not slept for three days and have wondered into this forum by accident.
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Last edited by lois : 05-24-2008 at 8:24 AM.
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05-24-2008, 9:15 AM
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#320 | | Moderator Join Date: Aug 31 2007 Location: Seaford, Victoria, Australia Bike(s): 2007 CBR1100XX Age: 41 Posts: 2,288
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Originally Posted by lois Black is not a fast color, it is not fun to say, and does not rhyme with anything cool.
But, If this will help you , I will put it another way that isn't so scientific and lots more easy to understand.......black is un-fast.....black has an actual negative effect on speed itself.
A study was recently done at Yale's speed / color department, and this study was performed by the top people in that place where the studying is mostly done. (?)
These "study people" worked night and day to help come up with the " facts" as they are now about to be presented to you, in a very studied and presentable manner.
Their studies show, and prove , beyond a shadow of a doubt, that not only does the color black make you look fat, it also causes a lag in time. That's right, you heard me, black is so slow, that people who own black bikes are getting fatter , and, aging faster than others whom have the faster colors. ( except, of course for those that have bikes the colors of which we do not speak....they are screwed in a totally different way, but I can't get into that now)
If this will help you to get a grip let's look at it this way.
A black hole, to most of us it is self explanatory, but I will spell it out and try to help clarify it for you. A black hole is just a big black thing that sits there and slowly sucks.
Why do they use the word black? why not red hole or silver hole.......I mean it's obvious.....really, think about it. | All this who-hah comes from people who actually own black bikes, but are so embarrassed by that fact, they have to paint their bike red. Go on, tell us, what colour is underneath your paint eh, what is the real colour of your ABS plastic? Wouldn't happen to be black, would it???
So you actually ride a bike - the colour of which is un-fun and SLOWLY sucks??
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05-24-2008, 11:08 AM
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#321 | Join Date: Mar 02 2008 Location: Bronx, NY Bike(s): RED(the fast color), 2001 CBR1100XX, 2004 ZZR600 Age: 39 Posts: 1,593
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Originally Posted by bullet ...this was the fastest production bird ever been sold on the market as is.....in england as a limited anniversary edition v&m blackbird... http://www.bikersoracle.com/jaws/cbr1200.jpg
over and out of thiS thread ..(or else i ll start using drugs...!!) |  Thanks to you Bullet. Your honesty is refreshing.
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