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    Need help removing seat, I'm an idiot

    So after getting my Bird, I noticed the previous owner had put this big metal plate over the fender and had a single hole drilled into it, I guess for a bracket or something. I removed the plate and also noticed a lock there. Since all the bikes I have had/ridden have always had a helmet lock on the side of the rear and not literally on the rear fender itself, I thought this lock was somehow a part of the plate assembly. So I removed that too. Well apparently this WAS the helmet lock and now I can't remove my seat to do simple things like check coolant levels/flush coolant, check airbox, spark plugs, etc. Does anyone know if there is a lever deep within where the lock was that I could lift with something that will unlock the seat so I can remove it?
    I've attached some pictures of the plate and what the current situation is like: IMG_1620.JPGIMG_1621.JPGIMG_1624.JPGIMG_1626.JPGIMG_1636.JPGIMG_1637.JPG

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    Re: Need help removing seat, I'm an idiot

    You can pull the rear cowl off carefully and easily access the release mechanism from there
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    Re: Need help removing seat, I'm an idiot

    Quote Originally Posted by beestoys View Post
    You can pull the rear cowl off carefully and easily access the release mechanism from there
    I've actually had to do this when too much British 'weather' had found its way into the lock on my Daily Bird. Do you still have the lock so you can 'restore'?
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    Re: Need help removing seat, I'm an idiot

    you can take the lock odd without the seat being removed?

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    Re: Need help removing seat, I'm an idiot

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyw64 View Post
    you can take the lock odd without the seat being removed?
    anything is possible with a big hammer! Doing it neatly is another matter.
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    Re: Need help removing seat, I'm an idiot

    Attached archive pictures attempt to show the underside of the seat area. I wonder if you could spy the cable that runs from the lock mechanism (through the seat lock hole) to the seat latch and snag it with a tool and then pull it to release the seat?

    The seat release cable is visible in my first picture: In the upper right of the frame, there is a red wire tie-wrapped to the black coated cable. The red wire runs to a light blue quick-splice connector on the tail light wiring. The seat cable is of that amour coated type. If you could find it and snake the lock end to the locks hole and then pull on it the seat should release. Doesn't normally take much cable movement to effect a seat release. I can take a better, more specific picture if you like.




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    Re: Need help removing seat, I'm an idiot

    Yes I do. I attached it in the pictures in my original post, but I'm wondering if the attachments show for others, because I just see hyperlinks to the filenames and only one thumbnail. I've added the lock picture again here, hopefully it will displayIMG_1637.JPG

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDuck View Post
    I've actually had to do this when too much British 'weather' had found its way into the lock on my Daily Bird. Do you still have the lock so you can 'restore'?

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    Re: Need help removing seat, I'm an idiot

    You have the most important part of the puzzle. The rest is just a clip and cable up to the latching mechanism now.That port looks like it's still there and useable.
    Route 191 formerly Route 666 Some say that this section of the
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    Re: Need help removing seat, I'm an idiot

    Quote Originally Posted by beestoys View Post
    You have the most important part of the puzzle. The rest is just a clip and cable up to the latching mechanism now.That port looks like it's still there and useable.
    Agreed, looks workable. Just a slight word of warning for when you re-assemble. The cable routing seems to me to be quite important to get a straight pull on the release mechanism, get it wrong and the release becomes stiff. The temptation then is to turn the key harder and we all know the keys are 'soft' ..... so if you feel resistance it is worth a fiddle.

    It might also be worth checking the parts you have against the Honda fiche just to be certain you have everything Honda Motorcycle Parts 2003 CBR1100XX A SEAT Diagram
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    Re: Need help removing seat, I'm an idiot

    Yes it makes a big loop back into the release cable stay from the left side.
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    Re: Need help removing seat, I'm an idiot

    I had a look on my bike and if you are able to remove the rear cowl (all screws are external, no need to remove the seat for it), you should be able to access the side of the cable where the lock was attached. If that doesn't work, you should be able to identify the cable and pull it gently, which should also release the seat.

    I made you some pics of the area. You will see that there is a sufficiently large opening (after removing the cowl) on the left hand side, between the handle (to lift it on the centre stand) and the rear light.

    WP_20170311_001.jpgWP_20170311_002.jpgWP_20170311_003.jpgWP_20170311_005.jpg

    Good luck. If you need more pics, just let me know.
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    Re: Need help removing seat, I'm an idiot

    It reminds of that trick of removing undies by jumping both legs up at the same time! Haven't been able to do that for years. Ok, back to the thread.
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    Re: Need help removing seat, I'm an idiot

    Quote Originally Posted by pbz1900 View Post
    It reminds of that trick of removing undies by jumping both legs up at the same time! Haven't been able to do that for years. Ok, back to the thread.

    You don't have to. You sit back and watch her do that!

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    Re: Need help removing seat, I'm an idiot

    Quote Originally Posted by Yellowspider View Post
    I had a look on my bike and if you are able to remove the rear cowl (all screws are external, no need to remove the seat for it), you should be able to access the side of the cable where the lock was attached. If that doesn't work, you should be able to identify the cable and pull it gently, which should also release the seat.

    I made you some pics of the area. You will see that there is a sufficiently large opening (after removing the cowl) on the left hand side, between the handle (to lift it on the centre stand) and the rear light.

    WP_20170311_001.jpgWP_20170311_002.jpgWP_20170311_003.jpgWP_20170311_005.jpg

    Good luck. If you need more pics, just let me know.
    Thanks man, that worked for me.


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