General CBR XX Discussion: General Discussion of the Honda CBR 1100 XX Super Blackbird that does not fit into the other specific forums.
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Closest Dealer(50 miles away) sure is proud of OEM oil filter
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07-17-2007, 3:52 PM
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#31 | | Vendor Join Date: Nov 01 2006 Location: So. Flo-da Bike(s): 2001 Red Bird Posts: 949
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I believe that all this back and worth junk is nonsense !
Everything posted above is someones opinion, period.
I don't think the Honda OEM filter is neccessarily the best but I always use them. Honda Directline is three blocks from where I work and I know the owner personally and get great prices and I don't pass any auto parts stores on my way home from work each day. I get the OE filters at the best price and at my convienence but that does not make them the best, just a good choice for me.
Now bearings........ !!!
Your OPINION that OE wheel bearings are better and last longer does not agree with my opinion or experience !
Once again this is all about opinions and EVERYONE knows that opinions are like azzholes, everyone has one and they all stink !!
check out the AllBalls brand of bearings, good stuff (in my opinion!)
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07-17-2007, 3:57 PM
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#32 | Join Date: Nov 07 2006 Location: LI, NY Bike(s): '03 XX Posts: 67
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Please direct me towards a forum based entirely on factual information.
Let's shut the internet down while we're at it.
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07-17-2007, 4:09 PM
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#33 | | Vendor Join Date: Nov 01 2006 Location: So. Flo-da Bike(s): 2001 Red Bird Posts: 949
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Originally Posted by SSUXX Please direct me towards a forum based entirely on factual information.  | There ain't one ! Quote:
Let's shut the internet down while we're at it. | Would if I could !!
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07-17-2007, 4:20 PM
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#34 | Join Date: Mar 27 2007 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Bike(s): 2002 CBR 1100XX dual CF devil pipes. 1982 XL500R Age: 26 Posts: 214
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I'm not trying to take sides by any means because I have no idea which filter is better or best and I really love arguing on the internet  . However, I do agree with the comment that OEM parts are not ALWAYS the best. Honda makes products that they can make a profit on at a competitive price and will provide good feedback from the customer. Simply put, Honda wants to make money!
For example, if you really believe that all OEM parts are the best you can get, then why has anyone who has ever owned a Honda for a decent amount of time constantly bash the CCT? I personally had one go out on my '93 F4. I have yet to hear ANYONE say that they like the Honda OEM CCT. Another good example is the R/R on the '97-'98 birds. Just something to think about and my  .
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07-17-2007, 4:24 PM
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#35 | Join Date: Nov 07 2006 Location: LI, NY Bike(s): '03 XX Posts: 67
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Originally Posted by 1100xxben I'm not trying to take sides by any means because I have no idea which filter is better or best and I really love arguing on the internet  . However, I do agree with the comment that OEM parts are not ALWAYS the best. Honda makes products that they can make a profit on at a competitive price and will provide good feedback from the customer. Simply put, Honda wants to make money!
For example, if you really believe that all OEM parts are the best you can get, then why has anyone who has ever owned a Honda for a decent amount of time constantly bash the CCT? I personally had one go out on my '93 F4. I have yet to hear ANYONE say that they like the Honda OEM CCT. Another good example is the R/R on the '97-'98 birds. Just something to think about and my  . |
All true, but is there an aftermarket version that is better than the OE CCT?  You picked a bad example but I understand what you are saying (And I agree).
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07-17-2007, 5:51 PM
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#36 | Join Date: May 24 2007 Location: Charleston, sc Bike(s): 2002 Blackbird stock Age: 37 Posts: 234
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Originally Posted by kup1236 Yes I know that I should have ordered it on-line for about $8.39
But I wanted to do a quick oil change so I paid the price.
$11.98 for OEM filter 15410-MM9-013 and---------------
$4.49 a quart for GN4 10-40 and---------
$ 3.89 a quart for 50/50 mix coolant---
They had it and I wanted it and I paid the price--This time
Do it to me once and shame on you,
Do it to me twice and shame on me
kup1236 | You are correct kup1236, it seems like the Honda Dealers definitely boost the MSRP on there items to make a major profit. But, like you, I find myself having little time to plan all my services ahead of schedule. I think the 50/50 mix is the only thing that is really close to the price of other stores. Wait until you need that air filter and have to purchase it from Honda!!!!!!!!!
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07-18-2007, 1:56 AM
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#37 | Join Date: Feb 28 2007 Location: USA Bike(s): None Posts: 15
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Just did the oil change and I am waiting to go to the Black Hills of South Dakota to ride before the rally.
I will change the coolant, brake & clutch fluid when it gets cold here.
I have not been able to find DOT 5.1 brake fluid.
I am going to order OEM filters when I order a new red front fender for my 01
Got the Vista Cruise today, and new grips on the way.
Did a 600 mile weekend
kup1236
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07-18-2007, 2:37 AM
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#38 | Join Date: Oct 16 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Bike(s): 2004 Blue Blackbird Posts: 808
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OK!
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07-18-2007, 2:51 AM
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#39 | Join Date: Nov 29 2006 Location: Sweden Bike(s): Busa -08, the CBR 1100 XX -97 is now SOLD Posts: 176
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Originally Posted by kup1236 .....I wanted to use OEM filter and Honda oil... | Honda oil, what's that |
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07-18-2007, 9:21 AM
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#40 | Join Date: Nov 07 2006 Location: LI, NY Bike(s): '03 XX Posts: 67
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Originally Posted by R1000 Honda oil, what's that  |
Honda sells (Or at least, used to sell) their own branded oil. It was called "GP4" or GN4" or some such shit. Back when I was racing, a Honda dealer sponsored me so I ended up with a case of their oil. I used it in my race bike (Which I changed every race weekend) and also my street bike. It was horrible stuff. Normally, how good or bad an oil is would be subject to speculation. In this case, shifting became notchy, clutch feel got strange and both bikes actually required a half quart top off within a 1000 miles. I swear, i'd do a 4 qt change on my race bike Thurs prior to going to the track and by the end of Saturday, it would be a qt low.  I used an entire case of the stuff and told my dealer I would never use it again. He told me he had gotten some complaints from some Goldwing customers too.
Like I said, usually oil is subjective but in this case, it was pretty black and white. That oil sucked.
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07-18-2007, 9:31 AM
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#41 | Join Date: Oct 16 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Bike(s): 2004 Blue Blackbird Posts: 808
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Originally Posted by SSUXX Honda sells (Or at least, used to sell) their own branded oil. It was called "GP4" or GN4" or some such shit. Back when I was racing, a Honda dealer sponsored me so I ended up with a case of their oil. I used it in my race bike (Which I changed every race weekend) and also my street bike. It was horrible stuff. Normally, how good or bad an oil is would be subject to speculation. In this case, shifting became notchy, clutch feel got strange and both bikes actually required a half quart top off within a 1000 miles. I swear, i'd do a 4 qt change on my race bike Thurs prior to going to the track and by the end of Saturday, it would be a qt low.  I used an entire case of the stuff and told my dealer I would never use it again. He told me he had gotten some complaints from some Goldwing customers too.
Like I said, usually oil is subjective but in this case, it was pretty black and white. That oil sucked. | It has only turned up in the dealers down here in the last year or so(...or maybe I've only just noticed it). It hardly seems to be flying off the shelves.  Thanks for the evaluation. I've often wondered.
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07-18-2007, 11:44 AM
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#42 | Join Date: Mar 27 2007 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Bike(s): 2002 CBR 1100XX dual CF devil pipes. 1982 XL500R Age: 26 Posts: 214
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Not to get off subject, but since you're already talking about Honda Oils...
I had an interesting conversation with a co-worker the other day that has ridden Harley's for some time now. He went to the dealer asking about switching to synthetic oil and the dealer said definitely not to do it. And of course, Harley didn't have their "own" synthetic oil at the time. Now, Harley has put their label on someone's synthetic oil and called it Harley Davidson's synthetic oil and they highly recommend it. Just the other day I asked 3 local Honda shops what they thought about switching to synthetic oil in my '02 bird (even though I had already bought full synth oil and was going to use it in a couple days) and they all told me that they wouldn't recommend it, but I should use Honda's synthetic blend instead. So, I wonder when Honda will "make" a synthetic oil and start recommending that everyone use it?
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