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Can my 00 use 10% ethanol blend?
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06-28-2008, 7:33 PM
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#1 | Join Date: Nov 17 2007 Location: New Zealand Bike(s): Black XX-Y Posts: 11
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Hello... stopped in at Mobil yesterday to fill up with PULP and found that its now blended with up to 10% ethanol.... didn't think I should use it so I went across the road to Caltex.
Have browsed other posts and the web to find a definite statement on whether my 00 BB can run on a blended fuel of <10% ethanol.  ... but no luck.
OK, my bike is 8 years old so i'd assume not.... however can anyone confirm for sure or point me in the right direction where I can find out? My local Honda dealer wasn't sure.
Thanks.
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06-28-2008, 7:52 PM
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#2 | Join Date: Oct 21 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Bike(s): 03 XX, Plated 03 XR650R Posts: 1,200
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Originally Posted by 1ecnirp1 Hello... stopped in at Mobil yesterday to fill up with PULP and found that its now blended with up to 10% ethanol.... didn't think I should use it so I went across the road to Caltex.
Have browsed other posts and the web to find a definite statement on whether my 00 BB can run on a blended fuel of <10% ethanol.  ... but no luck.
OK, my bike is 8 years old so i'd assume not.... however can anyone confirm for sure or point me in the right direction where I can find out? My local Honda dealer wasn't sure.
Thanks. | Don't quote me but, isn't' premium fuel ethanol free?
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06-28-2008, 8:21 PM
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#3 | Join Date: Nov 17 2007 Location: New Zealand Bike(s): Black XX-Y Posts: 11
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Mobil's Synergy 8000 (min 97.5 octane) pumps had the "may contain up to 10% ethanol blend" sticker on them and a similar label cable tied to the pump hose .... it was like "... what the hey? when did this happen?..."
(at first I thought the label was like those at some other stations that say you have to pay first before you fill up due to the significant increase in thefts thanks by a few morons who blame the rising fuel cost...)
Mobil's own NZ website doesn't mention anything about the synergy 8000 ethanol blend  ... perhaps it has only just been introduced.
An ethanol blend is available from Gull stations however there aren't any located in my area.
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06-28-2008, 9:38 PM
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#4 | | ... Get A Good Lawyer ! Join Date: Dec 20 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Bike(s): Honda '07 CBR1100XX Super Blackbird Age: 44 Posts: 1,886
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Honda user's manual recommends nothing more than 10% ethanol blend and nothing less than 91 RON .... Mine's an FI like yours !
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06-28-2008, 9:43 PM
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#5 | Join Date: Nov 17 2007 Location: New Zealand Bike(s): Black XX-Y Posts: 11
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Thanks.  the manual supplied with my BB makes no mention of ethanol.
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06-28-2008, 9:47 PM
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#6 | | ... Get A Good Lawyer ! Join Date: Dec 20 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Bike(s): Honda '07 CBR1100XX Super Blackbird Age: 44 Posts: 1,886
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There are some guys on this forum from south america running 25% ethanol with no problems because that's all they sell down there !
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06-29-2008, 12:05 AM
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#7 | | Moderator Join Date: Aug 31 2007 Location: Seaford, Victoria, Australia Bike(s): 2007 CBR1100XX Age: 41 Posts: 2,242
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E10 should be ok. As Dragon said, there are people in Oz who regularly use E10 and others in Brazil who are forced to use up to E25 blend. Personally, I wont use it unless there was no other choice.
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06-29-2008, 7:27 PM
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#8 | Join Date: Dec 23 2006 Location: Ont,Canada Bike(s): 99 CBR1100 some mods,91 CBR600 lot's o' mods Posts: 499
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10% is what all our gas up here has.So,yes you can.
When you come to Ontario you can expect lower gas mileage-guaranteed.Our gas sucks.
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06-29-2008, 10:14 PM
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#9 | Join Date: Mar 02 2008 Location: Bronx, NY Bike(s): RED(the fast color), 2001 CBR1100XX, 2004 ZZR600 Age: 39 Posts: 1,593
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I'm sure most of our gas has some kind of E blend nowadays, not sure how much.
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06-29-2008, 11:46 PM
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#10 | | The Original Bird Watcher Join Date: May 28 2007 Location: Gundagai, Australia Bike(s): 2003 Blue Blackbird Posts: 188
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I dont put anything other than BP ultimate in mine ( where I can help it ). The E10 is probably ok but I dont want to risk it unless thats all I can get at the time. I'm sure if there was some sort of engine damage the fuel companies wouldnt want to know about it and proving it would be an other thing.
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06-30-2008, 1:04 PM
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#11 | Join Date: Nov 25 2006 Location: canada Bike(s): '02 metalic cherry red CBR 1100 XX Posts: 1,970
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'02 Canadian Bird. Ethanol/grain alcohol; %10 by volume. Mehtyl Tertiary Buty Ether; %15. Theanol, (wood alcohol) %5 by volume. Owner's Manual.
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06-30-2008, 7:26 PM
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#12 | | ... Get A Good Lawyer ! Join Date: Dec 20 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Bike(s): Honda '07 CBR1100XX Super Blackbird Age: 44 Posts: 1,886
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Originally Posted by CanadianBird '02 Canadian Bird. Ethanol/grain alcohol; %10 by volume. Mehtyl Tertiary Buty Ether; %15. Theanol, (wood alcohol) %5 by volume. Owner's Manual. | ................ What ! No diesel or olive oil
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06-30-2008, 11:40 PM
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#13 | Join Date: Nov 25 2006 Location: canada Bike(s): '02 metalic cherry red CBR 1100 XX Posts: 1,970
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Good question, hop down to your Italian grocer and pick up some extra virgin olive oil. Let us know it the bird will drink it.
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08-08-2008, 3:36 PM
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#14 | Join Date: Mar 22 2008 Location: Barrie ON. Bike(s): 2000XX Age: 43 Posts: 62
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Partsguy,
Where do you purchase your fuel, have you tried Sunoco 94? I'm up north in Barrie, works for me!!
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08-11-2008, 12:39 AM
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#15 | Join Date: Jun 21 2007 Location: Springwood, West of Hell (Sydney), Australia Bike(s): Red '98 'bird gone, not forgotten, Black '07 Bird Age: 41 Posts: 492
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I have run 95RON E10 in mine & noticed bugger all difference between it and 98RON V-Power and Ultimate. Slight drop in fuel economy (~0.5 - 1 km/L).
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08-11-2008, 12:25 PM
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#16 | Join Date: Nov 25 2006 Location: canada Bike(s): '02 metalic cherry red CBR 1100 XX Posts: 1,970
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Cheveron is my gas of choice in BC and where ever I travel. I just fed some techron to my Bird, and both cars. I can't fing Sea Foam anywhere in Van. I run 87 and on occasion I feed her 94 but I think any performance is phychological.
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08-11-2008, 7:08 PM
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#17 | Join Date: Jun 25 2007 Location: Chicago, Illinios Bike(s): 1999 CBR1100XX and 1988 CBR1000F Stock & excellent Posts: 1,741
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CanadianBird.. I use the Chevron Techron fuel injector cleaner all the time.
Been using it for years in autos and bikes. Works great. I read a review of it in some magazine and they commented that it was one of the fuel additives that actually worked. They also had some before and after pics of the injectors in the write up and you could see a difference. Now I'm not sure if Chevron paid off the magazine or not but it does seem to work good in my toys.
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08-27-2008, 12:26 PM
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#18 | Join Date: Nov 25 2006 Location: canada Bike(s): '02 metalic cherry red CBR 1100 XX Posts: 1,970
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That's good news. I bought some Sea Foam last week in Washington, what's your opinion on this product. How often do you run Techron fuel injector through your Bird? and other toys? Would you use Sea Foam as a stablizer?
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08-28-2008, 8:05 PM
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#19 | Join Date: Jun 21 2007 Location: Springwood, West of Hell (Sydney), Australia Bike(s): Red '98 'bird gone, not forgotten, Black '07 Bird Age: 41 Posts: 492
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I have been keeping track of my milage, (what is the metric equivalent, anyway? Kilometerage?!?!?  ), and found that the fuel economy effects of E10 are insignificant compared to the varying effects of traffic.
Last edited by Banshee : 08-28-2008 at 8:55 PM.
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08-29-2008, 1:32 AM
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#20 | Join Date: Jul 22 2008 Location: chicago Bike(s): 2006 cbr600rr 1999 honda blackbird Posts: 108
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you can definatly run 10% ethanol in your bike and actually your bike will run slightly cooler but will go through a tad more gas. i was running E85 in a turbo bike for a short period of time because i was looking for something that had the effects of methanol yet still a pump gas. it worked on a set up the made 312 hp.
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