yup, he is THE MAN when it comes to hondas, especially blackbirds. I am taking him mine to pull the carbs and rebuild them this weekend

Originally Posted by matthend

yup, he is THE MAN when it comes to hondas, especially blackbirds. I am taking him mine to pull the carbs and rebuild them this weekend

Hi there can you give some details like where to get the kit or what the 1300 kit is please.
Paddy

Are you referring to Bernie? I need to take my bike to him for some jetting work.
Jet

Originally Posted by gunner1374

I have had a few bikes with big bore kits and they are every bit as reliable as stock as long as you get a good kit and as long as it is installed and they engine work is first rate. It will only be as good as the engine work. As far as power gains, you can expect close to a 25% hp and 25% torque increase across the entire range. Not just on top end. It doesnt have to spool up to get the extra power, its already there. Expect to go through rear tires, lol. I have seen an XX w/ a big bore, exhaust, and pc2 make just over 200 HP on the dyno at the wheels. Very impressive and very very fast. Cost less than $2,000 installed. I prefer that to a turbo or n2o anytime. Just my $.02

i would like to see the build sheet on that blackbird because at 200 hp it is certainly more then just a big bore kit. to get 200 out of a bird on motor you are going to need 2+mm over bore some headwork cams and valve train minimal. and you are certainly not getting that for under 2k. pistons are round $600 cams another $600 springs and retainers $400 another $400 plus for valves. thats already 2k just in hardware add another $300 for piddly stuff. then you are gonna have to pay someone for the machining work as well as an engine r&r and dissassembly and rebuild. all and all to get over 200 hp on a bird you can expect to spend over 4k if your going to do it the right and reliable way. for that money i would much rather suggest calling up hahn racecraft and getting a very basic turbo kit for 3500 and you can VERY reliably make 250hp with out ever pulling the engine out. i know this motor inside and out and have built several combinations so i know exactly what everything costs and what you can expect to get out of it. saying you will see a 25% hp increase is a very large overstatement. you are more likely to see around a 6% increase just from an overbore with stock compression and about a 10% increase if you opt to up the compression from 11:1 to 11.5:1. the fact is that the wont get a stock cylinder head to flow what it has to once you increase the bore size.

Originally Posted by fasterspider

I took on and whooped a 97 Busa last weekend. Maybe the guy is scared or maybe I am just a better rider but, it felt good to see him getting smaller in my mirrors.
I will not ride anything but a Honda even though friends of mine are ZX-14 freaks. They are why I bought my Bird with it's 1100 engine, it is the biggest Honda sport bike and the only one I fit on.
A 1300 Busa is an ugly bike and a 1400 Kwaka is just that, a Kwaka.
So it is the CBR1100XX Blackbird for me and I will leave the engine alone without a big bore kit but make the bike shed some weight with the loss of the stock exhaust system to be replaced by a titanium Akropovic 4-2-1.

#1 busa first year is 99
#2 the guy cudent ride power to weight an aerodynamics busa's destroy bird's.PERIOD!!!

Had a 1200 engine in mine up until I damaged it on the track, have an 1100 in there just now just to keep her on the road till former glory is restored, but believe me I miss it, my current engine was dyno'd with 141RWHP with a ram air induction kit rejetted and 4-1 Akrapovic,
The 1200 has VMR cams, ram air induction, Akrapovic 4-1, carillo rods, gas flowed heads and remap to 11800rpm. for a road bike it was phenominal, standard busas could not look at it with the dyno reading 183.4RWHP
The problems I had with it were due to high oil consumption thanks to poorly sealing valve stem seals, and hopefully when the pennies allow it will be back on the road tearing up tyres again

Originally Posted by 11dblex

having a red Blackbird (just plain blasphemy) must mean you live outta touch with reality....
the Busa wasn't in production until 99

just thought I'd mention that ... know how you red bird riders are a little slow

Ahhhh, we red bird riders may be slow, but our birds are the fastest!

Originally Posted by ira1031

#1 busa first year is 99
#2 the guy cudent ride power to weight an aerodynamics busa's destroy bird's.PERIOD!!!

Yeah, if you ride like you spell then we are all set!

JayO you may want to have a look at my project BB.
Cheers G

These are the Italian rumors, take a look

Sharp looking bike. Did they include any tech information?

they do not, in the related article too, i'm waiting for that.

Even I think mine is REALLY enough!

Gus.. Love the avatar

Originally Posted by Strek

Gus.. Love the avatar

thanks

i can share it , it's on imageshack

Boy can't help but be curious about posts dealing with big bore kits.... That pic of the Italian 1300 looks to made up, you'd think honda would install more design cues, probaly just me, but it looks photo shopped.
But now Big Bore Kits are great, I presently have a stock 02 Bird, which I love, but I went to test ride a 00 ZX-12 with a big bore kit, pistons, rods, cams, ohlins suspension, steering stabilizer... and so much more. It made me belive in big bore kits, you couldn't tell the difference between a properly built Big Bore, and stock engine, till you rode 200hp at the rear wheel bike, I'm canadian and at 130km/hr, you bring the rpm up to 7000 and crack it, well 200hp feels right on, and havin the power to play as you have the balls is cool.
Maybe this is me, I always keep my ears open for Honda to design the next Blackbird, or big bore ideas, but others on this site are right, pipe and pcIII the bird, if thats not enough, I think to buy a ZX14 for more power, thats what its made for. The bird, which I love mine is made for a certian amount of HP, you want more, buy a machine made with more stank, that will handle it. The part that sucks is the new machines suck fuel like crazy, the bird is a lot of plus features in a lot of ways...