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    Re: A turbo project..

    So what have i been up to.. Well i had a big fight with my pcv that didn't want to work as i hoped for. This meant i actually had to go back to a pc3 instead as the pcv causes some interference with the original ecu.. Have been e-mailing and getting some extra files and stuff from Dynojet but it still didn't manage to solve these issues so i decided to use the pcv, wideband lambda and display only for logging of data. Expensive way but i had already bought everything..

    This almost gave me gray hair but now i have forgotten about that when i took it for a first ride yesterday.. Just put in some added values on more throttle and on boost and kept a close eye on the lambda that was on the safe rich side all the time. Hit about 0,4 bar boost and oh lord i was screaming in my helmet as i raised the front wheel in approx 80 mph.. Mad thing and it is not even properly mapped or running close to the boost i am aiming for The sound of the dump valve is also very satisfying on a bike when you let go of the throttle.. So happy now that everything is working, will try to get some videos captured later on from the dyno and when riding

    Just waiting for the new injectors and some small details to fix, maybe polish the downpipe also?

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    Re: A turbo project..

    So i have finally been to a dyno and have a proper map and setup with the boost compensation. Got a call from Andersson-turbo that he had some time over and rode the bike there. I now finally have some evidence in the dyno papers that my build isn't a turd
    After some theory talk with this guy Peter who has been building turbo-bikes for the last 20 years we strapped it down on the dyno and i was nervous. I have access to another dyno at a shop where i work sometimes but i thought this being the first time mapping a turbo-bike I'll leave it to someone with vast experience and learn some by being there.

    The plenum chamber seems to be a success according to Peter, if it's to small and lacks some proper velocity stacks you can see lambda values being way off in the base map but we did not see any of these tendencies. These would be du to self oscillation at certain rpm-values but this worked very well. Also on the non boost map i had ported the internal wastegate to not build any boost and this also worked better than expected.

    Arrived at the dyno..
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    Peter is concentrated and I am nervous..
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    Sorry for the poor video quality it's filmed with a dirty lens on my phone..


    And the evidence: 250 Hp 190 Nm at the wheel, probably 265-270 at the crank at 0,8 bar boost. I am gonna adjust the boost to around 1 bar and will do another dyno pull later. Should end up at around 280 at the wheel then. Someone has a signature here that says a turbocharged bike will blow your mind and i agree, it is insane even at these "moderate" powers compared to what some people have. For a streetbike it is more than enough

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    Very happy now!
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    Re: A turbo project..



    You must be a very relieved man!
    Great build and now with the fuelling sorted you need not worry that you are hitting any lean spots.

    I've found 200 rwhp 'interesting', you are in for some fun
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    Full of Hot air? Intercool yourself............ you know it makes sense

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    Re: A turbo project..

    Finally a riding video. Running around 1 bar now at full throttle, however in this video i never exceed around 80% tps https://youtu.be/GRrq8KsmkkY
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    Re: A turbo project..

    Sweet!
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    Re: A turbo project..

    Oh man. Wow. The 140+kph power wheelies, and the way it just snaps the front end up. Drool. You need a two-foot longer swing arm. Lol. Pure awesomeness.

    What are you using for an exhaust? It sounds really nice.
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    Re: A turbo project..

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewie View Post
    Oh man. Wow. The 140+kph power wheelies, and the way it just snaps the front end up. Drool. You need a two-foot longer swing arm. Lol. Pure awesomeness.

    What are you using for an exhaust? It sounds really nice.
    Thanks! It is a bit freightning sometimes and at 5:55 i get a massive wheelspin out of a corner The muffler is handmade by a local old guy that usually builds hotrod exhaust systems. It is just a straight 3" full flow muffler packed with stainless steel wool, sounds just loud enough without being too noisy on longer rides.
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    Re: A turbo project..

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDuck View Post
    ... you are in for some fun
    gosh I appear to be psychic

    You have got some nice test roads there!
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    Re: A turbo project..

    Quote Originally Posted by drg180 View Post
    I love this thread the illustration here is awesome!! I have to ask, Do you have any kind of drawing ( hand or cad ) that was used to create the fixture base plate that you built.
    I need to build a header for my XX as well and having one of these would be fantastic to work with!!
    I would SO greatly appreciate it, if you could share.
    Thanks

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    Re: A turbo project..

    Quote Originally Posted by jersdunz View Post
    I love this thread the illustration here is awesome!! I have to ask, Do you have any kind of drawing ( hand or cad ) that was used to create the fixture base plate that you built.
    I need to build a header for my XX as well and having one of these would be fantastic to work with!!
    I would SO greatly appreciate it, if you could share.
    Thanks
    Yes of course, is there any file format you prefer. I have done it in Solidedge but converted it to .dwg to be able to use it in the watercutter. I guess that will work for you also?

    Thanks guys for the positive comments, it is fun to show whats going on in garages on the other side of the world!

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    Re: A turbo project..

    Yes, a dwg will be fine. The dimensions for the machined bases that you made and the accompanying flanges would be sweet as well.


    Thanks a ton.
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    Re: A turbo project..

    Did a dyno pull yesterday at 1 bar boost, had a hard time to get some grip on the worn roll so there might be some hp missing but still there is plenty i would say And the torque is sort of massive..

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    Re: A turbo project..

    That's awesome.!!

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    Re: A turbo project..

    I forgot to post a video of it when i whack the throttle properly and i would need a longer straight but anyways here is a few short clips of it before i start taking it apart as winter is coming here. Running 1,1 bar boost now probably close to 300 rwhp now I don't hit full throttle in the vid and shortshift as the front wheel tends to rise into the sky very quickly. For the winter i am going to change pistons as i don't know how long the ringlands will last on the stock pistons.


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    Re: A turbo project..

    Quote Originally Posted by drg180 View Post
    Running 1,1 bar boost now probably close to 300 rwhp now I don't hit full throttle in the vid and shortshift as the front wheel tends to rise into the sky very quickly.
    Lol 300 .. Your only using about half of it.

    can you imagine how she'd pull on a closed course with all the reaction and no wheel stand... Woo hooo


 
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