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lyrixxx · 01-10-2007, 6:30 PM

Has anyone here done or heard of anyone doing a conversion from the analog instrument panel to the newer digital dash? Seeing that I have to replace my entire upper fairing and everything associated with it, I think I want to go digital. Thanks in advance.

n51jr · 01-10-2007, 7:38 PM

I think you would have better luck goiing digital with a FI 99 model because of the wiring harness.
I dont know just thinking out loud

lois · 01-14-2007, 5:24 AM

I'm thinking "Nightmare on Elm Street"....

Helvet · 01-14-2007, 6:33 AM

Yes, it can be done.
I've seen a local shop do it, and everything works (even the temperature reading!). For it to work you must also have the top part of the wiring-loom. According to the shop-owner there is no major rewiring needed....
He did it in less than an hour.......

lyrixxx · 01-14-2007, 10:41 AM

HELVET:

Really? How can I get in contact with this person, because dropping my bike off at his shop is out of the question... Or if he can put togeather a how to and post it on the board, that would be graet. There may be some other folks out there who want to do it! Obviously I'm not the first. Thank you!

smoothmotion · 01-14-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by lyrixxx

HELVET:

Really? How can I get in contact with this person, because dropping my bike off at his shop is out of the question... Or if he can put togeather a how to and post it on the board, that would be graet. There may be some other folks out there who want to do it! Obviously I'm not the first. Thank you!

May I ask why you want to change?

lyrixxx · 01-14-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by smoothmotion

May I ask why you want to change?

Well I bought my "Project Bird" a couple of weeks ago(I have another thead on here). It has High front end damage, the rest of the bike looks good. I will have to replace almost everthing up front to get it rideable. Well, the dash was destroyed in the crash. Seeing I'm going to have to get a whole new dash, I figure this would be a good time to in my opinion upgrade to the digital dash. I just like the looks of it and it would make my 97XX a little different than others. That's just my thing. The previous owner did a lot to it, most of it I like. So as I see my vision of it start to pan out...I just want it to be a little unusual. Including the dash!

smoothmotion · 01-14-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lyrixxx

Well I bought my "Project Bird" a couple of weeks ago(I have another thead on here). It has High front end damage, the rest of the bike looks good. I will have to replace almost everthing up front to get it rideable. Well, the dash was destroyed in the crash. Seeing I'm going to have to get a whole new dash, I figure this would be a good time to in my opinion upgrade to the digital dash. I just like the looks of it and it would make my 97XX a little different than others. That's just my thing. The previous owner did a lot to it, most of it I like. So as I see my vision of it start to pan out...I just want it to be a little unusual. Including the dash!

I was just wondering took me the longest while to get used to the digital, I still miss the analog on the 97. I am not so sure it would be worth all the work unless you have the digital already purchased. Sometimes the smallest things give you the biggest headaches!

Good luck with your project and whatever you choose.

lyrixxx · 01-14-2007, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by smoothmotion

I was just wondering took me the longest while to get used to the digital, I still miss the analog on the 97. I am not so sure it would be worth all the work unless you have the digital already purchased. Sometimes the smallest things give you the biggest headaches!

Good luck with your project and whatever you choose.

Thank you. I have not bought the dash yet, so this is the perfect time to get all the info I may need. If you wanna get rid of that dash of yours....

79cbxmike · 01-14-2007, 3:30 PM

lyrixxx,

You might want to think about a digital speedometer with these points in mind:

Reading and understanding the numbers seems to take an additional mental step that should be devoted to the road. I don’t find the digital unit is as intuitive as an analog display that one is familiar with*. Seems to take more time to mentally record the numbers and integrate that into something that makes sense. A good example is found in large trucks where all the analog gauges are calibrated to read straight up when a measured parameter is in the normal range. A quick glance will tell the operator if all systems are normal, digital gauging would require reading and mentally integrating a whole bunch of numbers and reaching a conclusion about each one. ??

For sure though; the digital displays are subject to being washed out in bright sunlight.

* I have three Honda CBXs with analog displays; the 79 speedo goes to 140 while the 82s go only to 85. There, the easy quick sense of speed is complicated by the fact needle position for a given speed is not the same on all bikes – straight up on the 79 is about 80 MPH is while straight up on the 82s is about 45.

Anyway those are my thoughts.

Mike

flitemdic · 01-14-2007, 6:48 PM

Frank, "Helvet", is in the Netherlands. Rather not local to Edwards, I think. Keep plugging, though. If I remember correctly, someone in one or the other of the North American groups has done it, I just can't remember who.

lyrixxx · 01-14-2007, 6:53 PM

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Originally Posted by flitemdic

Frank, "Helvet", is in the Netherlands. Rather not local to Edwards, I think. Keep plugging, though. If I remember correctly, someone in one or the other of the North American groups has done it, I just can't remember who.

That's why I said I can't take it to that shop. It's little bit out of the local area!

n51jr · 01-14-2007, 10:39 PM

I have had a 97 and a 99 and after owning an 01 I actuall prefer the early inst. layout.

The way I understand it the 2 dashes use different plug connectors, I will have to give this a little more thought

Helvet · 01-20-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lyrixxx

HELVET:

Really? How can I get in contact with this person, because dropping my bike off at his shop is out of the question... Or if he can put togeather a how to and post it on the board, that would be graet. There may be some other folks out there who want to do it! Obviously I'm not the first. Thank you!

The shop that did this is called RG Tuning. The owner and mechanic is Ruud.
RG Tuning
Dukdalfweg 17G
1332 BH ALMERE
The Netherlands

Tel: 0031-365452599
E-mail: tl275854@tiscali.nl

lyrixxx · 01-21-2007, 2:49 AM

Thanks! I will try to contact him.

01-10-2007, 7:38 PM	#2
n51jr Join Date: Jan 07 2007 Location: Midland,TX Age: 46 Posts: 91	Re: Dash conversion... I think you would have better luck goiing digital with a FI 99 model because of the wiring harness. I dont know just thinking out loud

01-14-2007, 5:24 AM	#3
lois Join Date: Nov 06 2006 Location: Red Deer Age: 46 Posts: 4,591	Re: Dash conversion... I'm thinking "Nightmare on Elm Street".... __________________ Call me "Captain Mudbucket".

01-14-2007, 6:33 AM	#4
Helvet Need 4 speed = Food 4 thought! Join Date: Oct 21 2006 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Age: 46 Posts: 416	Re: Dash conversion... Yes, it can be done. I've seen a local shop do it, and everything works (even the temperature reading!). For it to work you must also have the top part of the wiring-loom. According to the shop-owner there is no major rewiring needed.... He did it in less than an hour.......

01-14-2007, 10:41 AM	#5
lyrixxx 180 mph anyone? Join Date: Dec 29 2006 Location: Travis AFB, CA Age: 39 Posts: 57	Re: Dash conversion... HELVET: Really? How can I get in contact with this person, because dropping my bike off at his shop is out of the question... Or if he can put togeather a how to and post it on the board, that would be graet. There may be some other folks out there who want to do it! Obviously I'm not the first. Thank you! __________________ I Ride Red!!!

01-14-2007, 3:30 PM	#10
79cbxmike Join Date: Dec 31 2006 Location: Possum Kingdom, Kentucky 40409 Posts: 29	Re: Dash conversion... lyrixxx, You might want to think about a digital speedometer with these points in mind: Reading and understanding the numbers seems to take an additional mental step that should be devoted to the road. I don’t find the digital unit is as intuitive as an analog display that one is familiar with. Seems to take more time to mentally record the numbers and integrate that into something that makes sense. A good example is found in large trucks where all the analog gauges are calibrated to read straight up when a measured parameter is in the normal range. A quick glance will tell the operator if all systems are normal, digital gauging would require reading and mentally integrating a whole bunch of numbers and reaching a conclusion about each one. ?? For sure though; the digital displays are subject to being washed out in bright sunlight. I have three Honda CBXs with analog displays; the 79 speedo goes to 140 while the 82s go only to 85. There, the easy quick sense of speed is complicated by the fact needle position for a given speed is not the same on all bikes – straight up on the 79 is about 80 MPH is while straight up on the 82s is about 45. Anyway those are my thoughts. Mike __________________ Michael Pavlick

01-14-2007, 6:48 PM	#11
flitemdic Join Date: Nov 01 2006 Location: USA Posts: 361	Re: Dash conversion... Frank, "Helvet", is in the Netherlands. Rather not local to Edwards, I think. Keep plugging, though. If I remember correctly, someone in one or the other of the North American groups has done it, I just can't remember who. __________________ N2YN 8/22/2004

01-14-2007, 10:39 PM	#13
n51jr Join Date: Jan 07 2007 Location: Midland,TX Age: 46 Posts: 91	Re: Dash conversion... I have had a 97 and a 99 and after owning an 01 I actuall prefer the early inst. layout. The way I understand it the 2 dashes use different plug connectors, I will have to give this a little more thought

01-21-2007, 2:49 AM	#15
lyrixxx 180 mph anyone? Join Date: Dec 29 2006 Location: Travis AFB, CA Age: 39 Posts: 57	Re: Dash conversion... Thanks! I will try to contact him. __________________ I Ride Red!!!