Scrappy

If you check your oil filler plug and smell it, does it smell of burnt plastic or burnt bakalite? If it does then I'd suspect the stator/generator ..... failing that I'd suspect the r/r ....

MotoRacerGabe

no burnt smell. just the smell of oil

Scrappy

If you've ruled out things like bad earths and dodgy connections and you dont have any kind of battery hungry alarm system then I suspect your original thoughts are correct .... r/r

MotoRacerGabe

Just ordered the r/r
i'm gonna give the R1 reg/rec a shot... AGAIN...

TheDuck

Normally the reg/rec on carb bikes
but
Can I suggest that you find a mate who has a meter that can read the AC voltage correctly ............. you don't want to toast the new reg/rec.
When I have had BB stators go down I normally see 27+ V across two pairs and approx 1.5 across the other. The one that I replaced yesterday still showed 23V but the continuity was completly up the swanny!

Scrappy

I suspect the stator is ok due to having the same voltage across all three (15VAC) and continuity checks out, but am in favour of TheDuck's suggestion to get a second opinion ... 2 heads are better than one and all that

RazinKane

Remember to check the stator after the bike is warm.

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MotoRacerGabe

well... i got the R/R today

before doing anything, I ran the bike for a while. After a few minutes the bike started to die. If i rev'd it up, it kept it alive for a little bit longer. I did that a few times, then just let it die. The R/R was super hot.

I decided to go ahead and swap the R/R few the new one. I put it on and let it run, while I checked the voltage at the battery to see if it was charging. I was only getting around 13.5V at about 3500 rpm. Then after a while, the bike did as it did before and started to die. I immediately turned the bike off. The R/R was hot, but not nearly as hot as the old one got...

Then, I put the old R/R back on and ran it. The readings at the yellow wires were around 16V AC across all three. I was also getting 13.5V at about 3500 rpm. This time, I let the bike run for a long time. I rev'd it up a bit too. It didn't die. I am so confused.

What should I do? should I check for shorts? Is there a way to SEE if the stator is bad visually (maybe if I open it up and check it out)?? I don't know what to do... I am more sad than angry I want to ride it so bad.

TheDuck

that is far too low (assuming you have the plug disconnected and are testing on the stator side) as I said earlier 27V AC is the lowest I have seen (49 the highest!) and it has to be consistant across all 3 pairs. I know you said there is no continuity, please double check, when I recently replaced the stator on my 99 inj Bird the voltage was correct but there was continuity!
IMO no not with any confidence ......... I have seen one that appeared to have sat on one of our Ausie members barbeques for 10 hours and was still working yet failed items looking as new!

MotoRacerGabe

I am now ordering a new stator.

MotoRacerGabe

which part number is it?
one for FI and other for carb'd birds?

Ronayers.com Fiche Desktop Motorcycle Honda 1997 CBR1100XX ALTERNATOR

MotoRacerGabe

anyone have any feedback on this one:

Honda CBR1100XX Black Bird 1997-1998 Ricks Stator:eBay Motors (item 200358624006 end time Jul-31-09 08:57:10 PDT)

MotoRacerGabe

I ended up ordering this stator:
Honda CBR1100XX Black Bird 1999-2003 Ricks Stator:eBay Motors (item 350172626100 end time Jul-29-09 11:02:52 PDT)

I ment to order the 97-98 stator... I wanted to give the ebay stuff a chance and i heard "rick's" stators are decent.

is it okay to switch over the harness connector? switching the 99-03 stator connector to the 97-98 connector.
here are some pics. the first one is the 97-98 stator and the second is the one i received (99-03). I would think I can and I pretty sure I will do it.

I think i read a some time ago about someone doing this, but i am not sure. if no one knows i guess I can be the guinea pig

also, I did not think about getting a new gasket for the stator cover to the engine. I have some of the stuff to make a gasket, I think I will do it that way. that's good, right?

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TheDuck

The later stators have a higher output .................. I wouldn't go there.

MotoRacerGabe

damn it... The seller does not accept returns... I sent him a message anyways. I'm so dumb, I didn't look at the year. I was just trying to order it quick and didn't even think about it.

getsarge

Gabe, I think I may need your 99-03 stator...hit me a pm and let's chat a bit.

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testrider

Why? If it fits, a higher output stator can only do good.
Does it physically fit in a 97-98 bird?

Mine is a 97 too. If it fits, I can sure use a higher output one from
the later models.

MotoRacerGabe

I am using the stator. I put it in and am getting great readings from the stator but at the r/r the readings are going dead. i am still trying to figure it out. i have been very busy lately... working on my house (new homer owner here )

onoff

Any updates on your charging problem??