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Old 05-19-2009, 5:39 AM   #1
 
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Wiring Diagram

I am about to graft a Digital instrument cluster onto my 99 model XX to replace the analogue one..

I have the cluster and the subloom and I have tested the dash to see how it works and there are a couple of minor wrinkles I need to workout.

1, The tempreture display shows 132C and flashes.
2, The FI light stays on dimly..

The mainloom on the bike is a 99 FI model
The Subloom that I have is for a 03 FI model
The cluster that I have is from an 05 model

There wiring does not appear to be a direct match with the loom connector.

What I need if anyone has it is the wiring diagram from something like a Haynes manual as the wiring diagram for the 99 - 02 Honda manual do not match the color of the wires in the subloom..

Can anyone help.

Thanks
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Old 05-19-2009, 7:07 AM   #2
 
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Why are you changing it out? Esthetics? Function? Acuracy? Accident? Sorry, I only know why and I never know how.
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Re: Wiring Diagram

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I am about to graft a Digital instrument cluster onto my 99 model XX to replace the analogue one..

I have the cluster and the subloom and I have tested the dash to see how it works and there are a couple of minor wrinkles I need to workout.

1, The tempreture display shows 132C and flashes.
2, The FI light stays on dimly..

The mainloom on the bike is a 99 FI model
The Subloom that I have is for a 03 FI model
The cluster that I have is from an 05 model

There wiring does not appear to be a direct match with the loom connector.

What I need if anyone has it is the wiring diagram from something like a Haynes manual as the wiring diagram for the 99 - 02 Honda manual do not match the color of the wires in the subloom..

Can anyone help.

Thanks

I wonder if the Aussie models are different somehow? Maybe you need to look to your local dealer as supposed to an outside source...
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Why are you changing it out? Esthetics? Function? Acuracy? Accident? Sorry, I only know why and I never know how.
More Esthetics and funtion. I have a preference for a digital readout on speed and also have a preference for the positioning of the tachometer in the centre of the cluster.

The tachometer is physically smaller on the analogue cluster too.

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I wonder if the Aussie models are different somehow? Maybe you need to look to your local dealer as supposed to an outside source...
This may be the case but I would rather take the easier path to begin with and see the Hayne wiring diagram provides the information that I require.

If the diagram is unavailable or doesnt have the correct colored wiring then I will take more difficult path of trying to get a dealler to compare models...
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:47 AM   #5
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if you want i can make a photography of the wiring of your model year and mail it to you.
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:04 AM   #6
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steve, i´m waiting for pm/skype.
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i was thinking about attempting the same project and I also have a 99 so this thred interest me. what models have the digital gauges?
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The Haynes manual has the color diagrams for the various year model and whether it is US or Euro. I can scan a copy if it comes yo that. I realized alll this when I wired my voltmeter and gear indicator in. Let me know how I can assist. I have a scanner right here in the room. // smurf
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Old 05-19-2009, 3:36 PM   #9
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haha

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Guys if the haynes manual shows different years then I most likely need the diagrams for the 03 and 05.

Ill send heisti and smurf my email address via pm..
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i was thinking about attempting the same project and I also have a 99 so this thred interest me. what models have the digital gauges?

May i suggest that do one of the following.

A) resign yourself to buy a cluster from honda (in AU thats $1200)
B) resign yourself to having to buy damaged clusters and repairing
C) Collect some rocking horse droppings.
D) Collect some hens teeth
E) Go see Santa Clause.

option C,D,E are all easier than finding a complete undamaged second hand dash. I looked for nearly 2 years and settled on option B.

I will complete a full write up with pics when I have completed the project.
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:56 PM   #12
 
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thats bad news. Blackbirds are rarer here too
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Old 05-20-2009, 1:26 AM   #13
 
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I have just purchased a copy of the haynes manual from ebay..

$54 with local pickup..

So i wont be needing the diagrams guys. I will PM heisti and smurf to let them know

but thanks anyway.
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54????????????????????
it´s €25,- here in our book stores
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edit: new price is €33,- Honda CBR1100XX Super Blackbird (1997 - 2002) CBR1100XX-V 1137cc 1997 CBR 1100 XX-W 1137cc 1998 CBR 1100 XX-X 1137cc 1999 CBR 1100 XX-Y 1137cc 2000 CBR 1100 XX-1 1137cc 2001 CBR 1100 XX-2 1137cc 2002 Reparaturanleitung / Motorrad / Zweirad / Verwüst
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Old 05-20-2009, 4:48 AM   #15
 
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33 euro is AU $58 so i got a fair deal
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lol i was thinking of us$ :-)
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...are all easier than finding a complete undamaged second hand dash. I looked for nearly 2 years...
just because of being curious i sent a mail to my parts dealer...
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just because of being curious i sent a mail to my parts dealer...

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They told him to droppenzie dead? BTW Steve, I can buy the Haynes manual at my local bookstore for 30 bucks.

You will find that is worth every penny (or shilling) that you spent on yours.
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Re: Wiring Diagram

Somehow I lost touch with this thread. From the digital voltmeter install I found that the 97-98 are in one wiring group -carb models, the 99-00 in another - moved to FI and then the 2001 up go digital gauges but still retain the analogue tach. . Then it is also split between Euro and US (HISS etc). I think I've seen the Haynes manual for $20 on eBay. Things like the Baro sensor at the rear which is another MAP sensor found on the 2000 and then phased out, etc. Compare that to the shop manual or the pdf and you should be set. hth // smurf
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