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John01XX · 12-26-2008, 1:23 PM

I am currently waiting on a new Stator to arrive this week.
2001 w/49,800

testrider · 12-26-2008, 7:07 PM

Thanks, John.

betoXX · 12-27-2008, 5:37 AM

Not a problem with the alternator, but I had to replace the R/R (part# 31600-MY305 = O&M with fins) and the battery.

This hapened two weeks after boosting up a died batery from a friend´s motorcycle during a ride. I believe I do it wrong keep running my engine when he was trying to start his old CB-750 F1.

My BB is a '97 and has only 13,600 miles on it.

PiAnt · 12-27-2008, 7:03 AM

'99 FI
Estimated 50,000 (clocks buggered)
Failed around 10 months ago - quoted 24,000 Baht (close on USD 700 now, not sure how much then, but too much.)
Rewound at about 1/4 of that price - no probs since. (I hope.)

SondanXX · 12-28-2008, 7:59 AM

2000, 41K and still the original stator... I have replaced the R/R with an OEM unit from a 2001 though...
Knock on wood...

flipy351 · 01-05-2009, 9:53 AM

You should have had another poll along side with if your reg has failed.

salbery · 01-11-2009, 9:59 PM

'98 with 40,000km and stator is ok. This said, the original R/R recently died (replaced it with the new OEM part) and all now looks ok - battery is charging well. Not running any aftermarket accessories on electrical system.

Poundstretcher · 03-10-2009, 7:01 AM

99 fi 50k no problems yet

dad · 03-10-2009, 6:02 PM

I think I kicked this issue off a while ago but it would appear that models after '99 are less prone to Stator failure.

When mine s##t itself it was less than 20Kms from home - a trailer job.
A couple of months previously we rode from Newcastle to the Oz GP at Phillip Island and back across the snow country - 'glass half full'

Cheers

dad

jclaude · 03-20-2009, 6:58 AM

i just had a battery problem 2 days ago i asked the technician if this could be a stator failure he told me to ride and if the battery doesn't charge he'll know where the problem is,loser.. even i will know where the problem is

dad · 03-21-2009, 4:51 AM

Mate, find another "Mechanic'.

A multimeter should show 14.2V pumping while the shows in action. Anything less its Stator time.

When the stator wears to a point that it cannot provide the correct volts, the complete computer controls go haywire bigtime and quick!

Luckily I was 20Kms from home when mine went.

jclaude · 03-21-2009, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad

Mate, find another "Mechanic'.

A multimeter should show 14.2V pumping while the shows in action. Anything less its Stator time.

When the stator wears to a point that it cannot provide the correct volts, the complete computer controls go haywire bigtime and quick!

Luckily I was 20Kms from home when mine went.

i'll have my bike service in another shop in 2 weeks i don't want to deal with those a**holes anymore just went there because i was in trouble (no time to change the battery myself and needed to go to work) they are only apprentices working there

CiscoKid · 03-26-2009, 12:23 AM

so is consensus that most have gone for a rewind or an aftermarket part say from Ricks Stators. I ask cause today I pulled the plug to my rectifier and 3 of the contacts are all blackened and the plastic housing melted. Looks as though I caught in time. I have a rectifier to replace with I got off the forum here it is from RM stator this model below
Honda - Regulator Rectifier - Super Duty for HONDA CBR 1100 XX Blackbird - CBR 1100 XX BLACKBIRD - Motorcycles - RM Stator / Stator, CDI Box, Regulator Rectifier

I am wondering if I should also replace the stator at same time or perhaps just go rectifier and test the voltage for 14.2 current, and if it is fine just leave as is.

I am looking at a stator from Ricks Stator eBay Motors: Honda CBR1100XX Black Bird 1997-1998 Ricks Stator (item 350173438943 end time Apr-02-09 08:02:30 PDT)=

I have no clue what a rewind would cost and am looking for other options or suggections from those that have replaced. I will not go OEM if it is some outrageous price of 400-600ca like it sounds

bullet · 04-22-2009, 8:50 PM

No electrical problems yet..52.000 kms mostly touring...although i'm a bit worried about the condition of some FI sensors....

docsevicz · 05-17-2009, 10:09 PM

My bros 03 failed (he thinks) so he took one off my old engine (another 03) and put it on his bike. Long story short it didn't work. He's also replaced his reg/rectifier but that's another story. When he tried it with my old stator and turned the key the sound you hear with the FI wasn't there. He's bringing it to the dealership a week from next Tuesday to have it diagnosed. In the meantime anybody got any ideas? For what its worth the bike has highmiles (50,000) and high output headlights. It's regularly maintained with fully synthetic oil.

CanadianBird · 05-24-2009, 12:02 PM

Cisco, is that why we aren't riding this weekend? Repeating myself, my stator failed at around 60 odd thousand kms. I replaced it with OEM plus it took the battery with it. I didn't replace the R&R till approx 130,000 kms. OEM. Yes, oem is pricy but for electrical that's my choice. I'd have to dig to find what I paid for my stator however the dealer gives me deep discounts respecting the high amount of $'s I spend there. I also hate to admit it but I cleaned out the storage and gave the r&r away. I have 137,100 kms as of yesterday and I keep her on a battery tender even when I only ride weekends. I also have hids, and a 9500i hardwired to the battery. I'm no expert but from what I have read from experts on this forum start at the beginning with a volt meter and a Hanes manual. Do a search for electrical gremlins. I just bought a digital gear indicator from Acumen and I might have bought the volmetre combination. I recommend both, if you have the dosh as they are not cheap. Good luck with your issues. Jaws sells electrical parts.

beestoys · 09-20-2009, 8:06 PM

2K
Just lost mine at 36K the windings were starting to short through the insulation. The only way I found it was using Electrosports T/S sheet. Put in one of thier higher output stators and so far it is working great.

DRBNWWAState · 09-27-2009, 1:44 PM

1999, has not failed. 56,800 miles.

Replaced the battery this month, a Yuasa maint-free. I believe it was eight years old(!), still had some life left though sounded a bit tired. I have no records on ever replacing the battery, though I might have done so right after purchase, early 2001 (bought used).

All-hail trickle chargers! When the bike sits more than a week, it's on one.

Ran through the PDF step-by-step checklist yesterday, when I did my peremptory strike on the battery. Everything is within-spec. I have seldom run farkles on this bike, other than a Garmin GPS and (rarely) heated vest and glove.

Reg/Rect connections looked good (non-fried).

So far, so good.

martyg2020 · 09-27-2009, 5:55 PM

Mine went bad on my 91 BB, and it only had 1996 miles on it. Not sure what happened but it was bad when I brought it from the dealer. It took them about 3 tries before they got it figured out. It has been fine since then with no other problems.

Taetor · 10-04-2009, 12:21 AM

no stator failure here, '97 w/67K miles, just r/r failure x2.

EmmSqd · 01-06-2010, 8:31 PM

Mine failed on my '99. Battery wouldn't charge & I had to jump start it for the 100K ride to the dealer to get it fixed. Got a bit over half way there before it died completely, so she got a ride on a trailer for the rest of the way.

Bike was about 3 weeks out of warranty but the dealer did the right thing, backdated the invoice for the job & got it replaced for free.

That was 6 years ago & the old girl hasn't missed a beat since.

dad · 01-07-2010, 2:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmmSqd

Mine failed on my '99. Battery wouldn't charge & I had to jump start it for the 100K ride to the dealer to get it fixed. Got a bit over half way there before it died completely, so she got a ride on a trailer for the rest of the way.

Bike was about 3 weeks out of warranty but the dealer did the right thing, backdated the invoice for the job & got it replaced for free.

That was 6 years ago & the old girl hasn't missed a beat since.

Yeh mate, since 'The Stator Incident' my '99 is as new.
I don't look at speedo's nor Tacho's when she's on but on a "safe, controlled situation", a mate on an MV312RF4 followed me up to 280ish (kph for the America's bretheren

) and we both agreed that was fast enough outside of Bonneville.

Cheers

dad

Poundstretcher · 01-07-2010, 8:13 AM

The OEM Honda replacement is more expensive but it is a much better unit than aftermarket recons.

dad · 01-07-2010, 4:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poundstrecher

The OEM Honda replacement is more expensive but it is a much better unit than aftermarket recons.

Agree totally re OME Stator is the way to go. Bulletproof and most importantly, piece of mind. A Stator on the way out followed by a dead Bird in the middle of buggery isn't one of my best experiences

Cheers

dad

Poundstretcher · 01-08-2010, 1:31 AM

I posted no probs then the friggin thing packed up

99BLACKBIRD · 03-02-2010, 8:47 PM

I have a 99 with about 27k miles. i bought it with 17k on it.
I ride just about everyday and sometimes about 300miles on the weekend

No problems yet, but, i am wondering if i should replace it?

.

Poundstretcher · 03-03-2010, 8:19 AM

Wait untill you need to replace it. They are too expensive to change if not required.

99BLACKBIRD · 03-03-2010, 6:31 PM

I feel you on that. I plan on 3500 mile run in June and i just dont want to get caught out there.

If i had the part numbers, maybe i will buy the parts to keep, just in case.

View Poll Results: Did your stator fail?
1) Yes - 1997 XX	8	8.00%
2) Yes - 1998 XX	5	5.00%
3) Yes - 1999 and later XX with FI	27	27.00%
4) No	60	60.00%
Voters: 100. You may not vote on this poll

12-26-2008, 1:23 PM	#31
John01XX Vendor Join Date: Nov 01 2006 Location: So. Flo-da Posts: 1,147	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? I am currently waiting on a new Stator to arrive this week. 2001 w/49,800 __________________ John Smith Proprieter of John's Bike Bits John@BikeBits.us

12-26-2008, 7:07 PM	#32
testrider Join Date: Nov 30 2006 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 433	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? Thanks, John.

12-27-2008, 5:37 AM	#33
betoXX Join Date: Sep 22 2007 Location: São Paulo - Brazil Age: 57 Posts: 22	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? Not a problem with the alternator, but I had to replace the R/R (part# 31600-MY305 = O&M with fins) and the battery. This hapened two weeks after boosting up a died batery from a friend´s motorcycle during a ride. I believe I do it wrong keep running my engine when he was trying to start his old CB-750 F1. My BB is a '97 and has only 13,600 miles on it. Last edited by betoXX; 12-27-2008 at 5:44 AM.

12-27-2008, 7:03 AM	#34
PiAnt Join Date: Apr 05 2008 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Age: 46 Posts: 100	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? '99 FI Estimated 50,000 (clocks buggered) Failed around 10 months ago - quoted 24,000 Baht (close on USD 700 now, not sure how much then, but too much.) Rewound at about 1/4 of that price - no probs since. (I hope.)

12-28-2008, 7:59 AM	#35
SondanXX Steers with rear wheel Join Date: Feb 02 2007 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 48	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? 2000, 41K and still the original stator... I have replaced the R/R with an OEM unit from a 2001 though... Knock on wood... __________________ Rob Conch-Town Crew - S. Central Chapter IBA Member # 25507

01-05-2009, 9:53 AM	#36
flipy351 Join Date: Apr 01 2007 Location: Queensland, Australia Age: 51 Posts: 89	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? You should have had another poll along side with if your reg has failed.

01-11-2009, 9:59 PM	#37
salbery Join Date: Nov 18 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 19	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? '98 with 40,000km and stator is ok. This said, the original R/R recently died (replaced it with the new OEM part) and all now looks ok - battery is charging well. Not running any aftermarket accessories on electrical system.

03-10-2009, 7:01 AM	#38
Poundstretcher A Rainbird Warrior Join Date: Oct 15 2008 Location: Tasmania Posts: 4,094	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? 99 fi 50k no problems yet

03-10-2009, 6:02 PM	#39
dad Join Date: Nov 06 2007 Location: Australia Age: 62 Posts: 89	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? I think I kicked this issue off a while ago but it would appear that models after '99 are less prone to Stator failure. When mine s##t itself it was less than 20Kms from home - a trailer job. A couple of months previously we rode from Newcastle to the Oz GP at Phillip Island and back across the snow country - 'glass half full' Cheers dad

03-20-2009, 6:58 AM	#40
jclaude Rules are meant to be broken Join Date: Oct 27 2008 Location: Sydney, The land down under Age: 33 Posts: 2,743	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? i just had a battery problem 2 days ago i asked the technician if this could be a stator failure he told me to ride and if the battery doesn't charge he'll know where the problem is,loser.. even i will know where the problem is __________________ (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(") It takes more love to share the saddle that it takes to share the bed http://www.sydneyriders.com/forum/index.php

03-21-2009, 4:51 AM	#41
dad Join Date: Nov 06 2007 Location: Australia Age: 62 Posts: 89	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? Mate, find another "Mechanic'. A multimeter should show 14.2V pumping while the shows in action. Anything less its Stator time. When the stator wears to a point that it cannot provide the correct volts, the complete computer controls go haywire bigtime and quick! Luckily I was 20Kms from home when mine went.

03-26-2009, 12:23 AM	#43
CiscoKid Join Date: Sep 07 2008 Location: Port Moody BC Posts: 186	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? so is consensus that most have gone for a rewind or an aftermarket part say from Ricks Stators. I ask cause today I pulled the plug to my rectifier and 3 of the contacts are all blackened and the plastic housing melted. Looks as though I caught in time. I have a rectifier to replace with I got off the forum here it is from RM stator this model below Honda - Regulator Rectifier - Super Duty for HONDA CBR 1100 XX Blackbird - CBR 1100 XX BLACKBIRD - Motorcycles - RM Stator / Stator, CDI Box, Regulator Rectifier I am wondering if I should also replace the stator at same time or perhaps just go rectifier and test the voltage for 14.2 current, and if it is fine just leave as is. I am looking at a stator from Ricks Stator eBay Motors: Honda CBR1100XX Black Bird 1997-1998 Ricks Stator (item 350173438943 end time Apr-02-09 08:02:30 PDT)= I have no clue what a rewind would cost and am looking for other options or suggections from those that have replaced. I will not go OEM if it is some outrageous price of 400-600ca like it sounds

04-22-2009, 8:50 PM	#44
bullet Join Date: Jun 12 2007 Location: GREECE-ATHENS Age: 39 Posts: 963	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? No electrical problems yet..52.000 kms mostly touring...although i'm a bit worried about the condition of some FI sensors.... __________________ http://www.facebook.com/#/profile.ph...00000710085835

05-17-2009, 10:09 PM	#45
docsevicz Join Date: Jan 24 2008 Location: Massachusetts Age: 49 Posts: 471	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? My bros 03 failed (he thinks) so he took one off my old engine (another 03) and put it on his bike. Long story short it didn't work. He's also replaced his reg/rectifier but that's another story. When he tried it with my old stator and turned the key the sound you hear with the FI wasn't there. He's bringing it to the dealership a week from next Tuesday to have it diagnosed. In the meantime anybody got any ideas? For what its worth the bike has highmiles (50,000) and high output headlights. It's regularly maintained with fully synthetic oil. __________________ Speed ... Like the waves coming to the shore ... its in my blood and in my bones. Mark Knofler

05-24-2009, 12:02 PM	#46
CanadianBird Join Date: Nov 25 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 4,392	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? Cisco, is that why we aren't riding this weekend? Repeating myself, my stator failed at around 60 odd thousand kms. I replaced it with OEM plus it took the battery with it. I didn't replace the R&R till approx 130,000 kms. OEM. Yes, oem is pricy but for electrical that's my choice. I'd have to dig to find what I paid for my stator however the dealer gives me deep discounts respecting the high amount of $'s I spend there. I also hate to admit it but I cleaned out the storage and gave the r&r away. I have 137,100 kms as of yesterday and I keep her on a battery tender even when I only ride weekends. I also have hids, and a 9500i hardwired to the battery. I'm no expert but from what I have read from experts on this forum start at the beginning with a volt meter and a Hanes manual. Do a search for electrical gremlins. I just bought a digital gear indicator from Acumen and I might have bought the volmetre combination. I recommend both, if you have the dosh as they are not cheap. Good luck with your issues. Jaws sells electrical parts.

09-20-2009, 8:06 PM	#47
beestoys Join Date: Sep 25 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 349	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? 2K Just lost mine at 36K the windings were starting to short through the insulation. The only way I found it was using Electrosports T/S sheet. Put in one of thier higher output stators and so far it is working great.

09-27-2009, 1:44 PM	#48
DRBNWWAState Join Date: Mar 08 2008 Location: Seattle, WA USA Posts: 2	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? 1999, has not failed. 56,800 miles. Replaced the battery this month, a Yuasa maint-free. I believe it was eight years old(!), still had some life left though sounded a bit tired. I have no records on ever replacing the battery, though I might have done so right after purchase, early 2001 (bought used). All-hail trickle chargers! When the bike sits more than a week, it's on one. Ran through the PDF step-by-step checklist yesterday, when I did my peremptory strike on the battery. Everything is within-spec. I have seldom run farkles on this bike, other than a Garmin GPS and (rarely) heated vest and glove. Reg/Rect connections looked good (non-fried). So far, so good.

09-27-2009, 5:55 PM	#49
martyg2020 Join Date: Sep 10 2009 Location: Cave Creek,AZ Posts: 37	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? Mine went bad on my 91 BB, and it only had 1996 miles on it. Not sure what happened but it was bad when I brought it from the dealer. It took them about 3 tries before they got it figured out. It has been fine since then with no other problems.

10-04-2009, 12:21 AM	#50
Taetor Join Date: Feb 22 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 34 Posts: 609	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? no stator failure here, '97 w/67K miles, just r/r failure x2.

01-06-2010, 8:31 PM	#51
EmmSqd Join Date: Dec 31 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 62	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? Mine failed on my '99. Battery wouldn't charge & I had to jump start it for the 100K ride to the dealer to get it fixed. Got a bit over half way there before it died completely, so she got a ride on a trailer for the rest of the way. Bike was about 3 weeks out of warranty but the dealer did the right thing, backdated the invoice for the job & got it replaced for free. That was 6 years ago & the old girl hasn't missed a beat since. __________________ -------- 2 M

01-07-2010, 8:13 AM	#53
Poundstretcher A Rainbird Warrior Join Date: Oct 15 2008 Location: Tasmania Posts: 4,094	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? The OEM Honda replacement is more expensive but it is a much better unit than aftermarket recons.

01-08-2010, 1:31 AM	#55
Poundstretcher A Rainbird Warrior Join Date: Oct 15 2008 Location: Tasmania Posts: 4,094	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? I posted no probs then the friggin thing packed up

03-02-2010, 8:47 PM	#56
99BLACKBIRD Join Date: Apr 14 2009 Location: SAN ANGELO, TX Posts: 96	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? I have a 99 with about 27k miles. i bought it with 17k on it. I ride just about everyday and sometimes about 300miles on the weekend No problems yet, but, i am wondering if i should replace it? .

03-03-2010, 8:19 AM	#57
Poundstretcher A Rainbird Warrior Join Date: Oct 15 2008 Location: Tasmania Posts: 4,094	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? Wait untill you need to replace it. They are too expensive to change if not required.

03-03-2010, 6:31 PM	#58
99BLACKBIRD Join Date: Apr 14 2009 Location: SAN ANGELO, TX Posts: 96	Re: Poll: who had a stator that failed? I feel you on that. I plan on 3500 mile run in June and i just dont want to get caught out there. If i had the part numbers, maybe i will buy the parts to keep, just in case.

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